Why isn't Time Machine pruning backups?


My MacBook Pro HD has about 486 GB of being backed up by Time Machine. I now am getting warnings about running out of space on my 1.3TB Time Machine backup volume.


The majority of the online solutions essentially suggest starting a new backup! This almost seems silly when other backup solutions do not have this issue and seem to effectively prune and manage incremental versioned backups


Those backup tools that are very good at pruning and discarding irrelevant or old data from the backup. Also they usually have ways to manage the handling of deleted files, such as a retention period, or automatically deleting by adding them to an exclusion list.


Apparently Time Machine does not have any of these features or options and is good at selling external drives!


I've gone from loving Time Machine to hating it. :(


Is there any solution or utilities for pruning my existing backup without having to get another drive?

Posted on Apr 22, 2024 10:12 AM

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Apr 22, 2024 1:01 PM in response to born2boot

born2boot wrote:

• The 486 GB is the total size of the backup set for my MacBook Pro. That is, everything except what i have excluded from the backup.

It appears that Time Machine's philosophy is keep everything forever, including deleted files. The implication of Time Machine not pruning versions or deleted items is that Time Machine backup volume will continuously grow, never reclaiming any space for older or deleted items I have no interest in retaining.


Time Machine volumes want to keep at least one copy of all files around, and wants to prune the oldest files first, which in aggregate means you need enough free storage for that to happen.


The arrival of big files tends to be a problem for marginal-free-storage configurations.


It’s the marginal size for your churn that’s causing the issue here.


A backup solution I have used in the past allowed configuring:
how many versions of a file should be retained
• the oldest age of a file to be retained
• how long to retain deleted files
• deletion of files removed from the backup set (remove files that are excluded)


If you want control over your backups, Time Machine is not your choice.

Apr 22, 2024 11:25 AM in response to born2boot

I can read that 486 GB reference in two ways, either as the size of the current hunk getting backed up, or as 486 GB used from some 512 GB or larger storage device. The former is a problem, as big backup churn isn’t what Time Machine works well with. The latter is “merely” a relatively small HDD for a 512 GB (total) Mac.


TM also gets in trouble when several big files get churned with full-ish and small-ish TM storage, as TM really wants to keep some old copies of all files around.


I’m running 4 to 6 TB direct-attached HDD storage and larger NAS HDD configurations for Time Machine.


That size range HDDs both because of the covered storage capacity, and because the price difference between that capacity range and smaller HDDs was negligible—that was the knee in the pricing and capacity curve when those HDDs were purchased—and as having sufficient free storage means TM doesn’t get hindered by the usual Xcode installer churn.


The three major options here are keeping the HDD connected continuously, or getting a bigger HDD, or to (bigger) NAS (with TM server support). Adding a second and larger HDD is also workable, while the smaller HDD sorts itself, as TM is perfectly happy to run its output to parallel storage archives.


NAS (with TM server support) works well for a MacBook Pro and other laptops, as that gets used whenever the Mac is connected to the same Wi-Fi, and not just when the external TM storage is physically connected to the laptop. But NAS (with TM server support) is also obviously more expensive than direct-attached HDDs, too.

Apr 22, 2024 10:47 AM in response to born2boot

Never manually attempt to remove Time Machine content. Ever.


Time Machine consolidates daily backups into weekly backups, and those into Monthly backups and it will prune backups when it is ready. It doesn't just blithely remove as much space as you think you need in order to complete a current backup. So yes, you may be in the market for a new Time Machine drive with larger capacity to meet your backup needs.


As long as my Mac is powered during the day, Time Machine backups are completing every hour. If you were doing this, you wouldn't be faced with gargantuan backups (e.g. 486 GB) and run into a storage crunch on the current TM drive.

Apr 22, 2024 12:54 PM in response to MrHoffman

The 486 GB is the total size of the backup set for my MacBook Pro. That is, everything except what i have excluded from the backup.


It appears that Time Machine's philosophy is keep everything forever, including deleted files. The implication of Time Machine not pruning versions or deleted items is that Time Machine backup volume will continuously grow, never reclaiming any space for older or deleted items I have no interest in retaining.


As I mentioned, other backup solutions I have used transparently and effectively manage the storage with default or user defined retention policies. I never encountered an issue of running out of storage, especially when the available backup storage is


A backup solution I have used in the past allowed configuring:

  • how many versions of a file should be retained
  • the oldest age of a file to be retained
  • how long to retain deleted files
  • deletion of files removed from the backup set (remove files that are excluded)


Apr 22, 2024 1:04 PM in response to VikingOSX

I agree, I would never directly edit the Time Machine volume in any way. I just hoped maybe there were tools that could safely manage the backup volume.


Regarding the "gargantuan backups" 486 GB doesn't seem that big to me. And I do follow the practice where my TimeMachine is running continuously.


I thought Time Machine did incremental 'block-based' backups, rather than storing the entire file again if anything has changed in a file.


I read somewhere that the rule of thumb for a TIme Machine is 2X the backup data source This is why it surprises me that that my 486 GB doesn't fit on my 1.3 TB Time Machine backup drive, approx. 2.7x my backed up data.


The problem is solvable through smart resource management in the backup software, but apparently not a priority for Time Machine.

Apr 22, 2024 1:15 PM in response to MrHoffman

MrHoffman wrote:

If you want control over your backups, Time Machine is not your choice.

I had hoped that Time Machine could be smart about pruning to allow my backup to fit.


I tried excluding some folders that I decided I don't need to backup hoping that TimeMachine would recognize these and potentially prune older versions of the excluded files. But that did not help.

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