Macbook 16 2021 - Battery at Low battery health capacity after 2 years despite low cycle count and always being plugged in.

I am fairly disappointed in Apple that with a low cycle count of 96 and being 2 years old my M1 Macbook Pro is at 88% battery health. I am an expert in lithium batteries, and it is a best practices to discharge them to not less than 20% and charge them to not more than 80%. However, Apple's software keeps mine at 100% even if I set Optimized Battery Charging. Occasionally, I accidentally unplug my computer, but it takes weeks of being plugged in to reset to 80% charge, it is a really poor solution. Basically, Apple need to be highly aggressive in setting the laptop to 80% charge levels, Maybe a do not exceed 80% charge setting in battery health settings window. Another thing is running above 120F on the battery accelerate battery degradation, which my computer often sits at.

Anyone else feel the same, or have similar issues?

Why is apple not addressing this?

MacBook Pro (M1, 2020)

Posted on Jun 1, 2024 6:53 AM

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Jun 3, 2024 7:00 AM in response to John-man

Talking about your battery being dead when it is still within Apple official acceptable service levels after two years is nonsense.


Batteries are a wear item, like the soles of your shoes and the tires on your car. Their expected lifetime depends on use (as reflected in Charge cycles) and also in the passage of time, used or not. After a while, you should expect to have to replace the battery.


Battery life also depends on two factors you may be able to control a bit better. Lithium polymer batteries deteriorate when they get too hot, and when they are subject to very deep discharge. These should be avoided when possible.


Despite using these batteries in millions of Apple devices, there is still a lot of of randomness in exactly which battery will fail when.


Apple SUGGESTS (but does not Warrant) that your battery MAY last as long as 1000 charge cycles, provided all other factors are well-controlled.


Apple uses the criterion that a battery that doesn't to hold 80 percent of its original charge capacity should be serviced, and likely replaced.


When designing systems, that 80 percent rule is intended so that, over a Very large sample of devices, almost all will be able to achieve their 'mission' -- still have at least 80 percent capacity at the three-year mark.

Jun 1, 2024 6:58 AM in response to John-man

John-man wrote:

I am fairly disappointed in Apple that with a low cycle count of 96 and being 2 years old my M1 Macbook Pro is at 88% battery health. I am an expert in lithium batteries, and it is a best practices to discharge them to not less than 20% and charge them to not more than 80%. However, Apple's software keeps mine at 100% even if I set Optimized Battery Charging. Occasionally, I accidentally unplug my computer, but it takes weeks of being plugged in to reset to 80% charge, it is a really poor solution. Basically, Apple need to be highly aggressive in setting the laptop to 80% charge levels, Maybe a do not exceed 80% charge setting in battery health settings window. Another thing is running above 120F on the battery accelerate battery degradation, which my computer often sits at.
Anyone else feel the same, or have similar issues?
Why is apple not addressing this?


No one here can speak for Apple.


However you can submit your feedback Product Feedback - Apple


Jun 1, 2024 7:29 AM in response to John-man

John-man wrote:

Does anyone have any solutions on how to keep the health where it is ?

Since you are familiar with Lithium batteries, you know that is not possible. Degradation happens over time and will always go down. If you are looking for a 80% charging limit option like what is found on the iPhone, then you can suggest Feedback to Apple here:

Product Feedback - Apple

Jun 7, 2024 10:26 AM in response to John-man

Keep in mind the Maximum Capacity could have a variation of +/- 5% and maybe you are on the low side of that variation at the moment. The Full Charge Capacity (FCC) does fluctuate by about 300mAh even on a good Apple battery. As the battery ages, this fluctuation can become more pronounced. Even a 200mAh fluctuation can cause the Maximum Capacity ratio to fluctuate by 5%. See my other post here where I show the math:

Battery Health draining fast - hwtech - Apple Community


Jun 3, 2024 5:44 AM in response to Mac Jim ID

Hey Jim, I would like to politely correct you. Degradation will occur, but the rate of degradation that occur should not be anywhere as bad as I experienced, this is clearly an engineering issue on Apple's Side. Imaging buying a Tesla and having the batteries go dead in 4 years, with 95 drives. Heat, charge/discharge rates, minimum and maximum charge levels, voltage control, all create multiple forms of Lipo battery damage. Apple is not doing their job maintaining batteries, especially for people who keep their computer plugged in all the time. This is killing batteries very early. I think it may be an issue across entire laptop industry. All the tech exists in the macbooks that I can build a software to fix this, I am just dumfounded that this is not a priority.

Thanks for the link, I sent apple some feedback. I downloaded Aldente a battery management app, hopefully that helps minimize damage going forward.

Jun 6, 2024 12:44 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Thank you for your in-depth answer. Respectfully, I do have a depth of knowledge in battery chemistry and battery science and degradation modes. I know for a fact that we could extend the health of a battery with low cycles (less than 200) on to 10+ years.


I feel strongly that we as a community shouldn't accept low cycle life batteries dying in 3-5 years. You wouldn't accept that for your electric car, so why should we accept that for our (in many cases expensive) laptops?

My hope is that I can shift people away from accepting this, and put a little pressure on Apple to improve their battery maintenance software routines.


Manufacturing batteries at scale with very low battery defects is difficult. Look at CATL, which are experts and still have thermal runaway problems on their newest EV battery models. Yet again, low cycle life batteries can be maintained in such a way (thermal, charge rate, and charge level limitations) that allows them to live 5X to 10X longer than I am seeing in current Macs. This is really a challenge that Apple should put some resources into.


To your point I am a bit annoying in this regards with my obsessiveness over a minor issue, but thank you again for taking time to answer me.


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