I never recieved my iPad and Apple Penicl from Uber Eats

I ordered an iPad Air and Apple Pencil on May 23th, 2024 with the option for next-day delivery. On May 24th, 2024, I saw that my order was about to be delivered by someone identified as Yonfrainer G. It even had a profile picture. Then I received a message from someone which I assumed is this person, telling me that he couldn't find me. I then asked him if he had the correct address and he confirmed. I finally told him to call a specific phone number, to which he also agreed. Within the next 30 seconds, he marked the order as delivered, without actually delivering any package.


I contacted Apple via chat, and their support representative offered me to open an investigation and a request for a refund. Then after a few minutes, I received confirmation from Apple via email that my request for a refund could not be processed.


My question is: Who should be held accountable for this loss?


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Posted on Jun 4, 2024 4:40 PM

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Posted on Jun 5, 2024 12:55 PM

carlosm14 wrote:


In addition, how you are so certain that Apple is not able to locate a device with a unique identifier set by them?

Because this has been the number one thing people have asked about when their device is lost or stolen…and hasn’t been setup with Find My (or it’s turned off) for years. It’s also what people have asked about when they say they have found a device a want to try and find the owner. The assumption that Apple would just locate devices with the serial number isn’t a new thing. Part of the reason why they and most other companies don’t use that tactic might have to do with privacy rights and other laws in the region in question which likely play a very big part in what can and can’t be done.


As far as contacting the police…you can still do that even in this case. This is an alleged theft case (alleged only because right now it’s your word against that of Uber Eats and the driver. Not implying that you are not being honest or anything). Of course you can choose not to but if Apple advised you to do so it might be a good idea. Right now like I said, the situation is a you said/they (UberEats, driver) thing. Apple no longer had possession and the carrier is the one that would tell Apple what their records show…and would need to be the ones to further investigate. Kind of like if it were shipped to you via UPS for example. If you didn’t receive the delivery but UPS marked it as delivered and you contacted Apple part of their investigation would be to contact UPS about it. If UPS provides actual proof of delivery (like in some areas they will take a photo of the package at the delivery address as proof or of course if they obtained a direct signature) then Apple could close the case and refuse refund or replacement based on the evidence. Different situation than yours of course but just an example of a dispute of where the customer reports not receiving a package marked as delivered and the delivery company claiming they did indeed deliver it.


Ultimately in your case I would think that UberEats is responsible for determining what really happened. The package was in the possession of their driver and their driver for whatever reason marked it as delivered. But that’s my personal opinion assumption based on the information.

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Jun 5, 2024 12:55 PM in response to carlosm14

carlosm14 wrote:


In addition, how you are so certain that Apple is not able to locate a device with a unique identifier set by them?

Because this has been the number one thing people have asked about when their device is lost or stolen…and hasn’t been setup with Find My (or it’s turned off) for years. It’s also what people have asked about when they say they have found a device a want to try and find the owner. The assumption that Apple would just locate devices with the serial number isn’t a new thing. Part of the reason why they and most other companies don’t use that tactic might have to do with privacy rights and other laws in the region in question which likely play a very big part in what can and can’t be done.


As far as contacting the police…you can still do that even in this case. This is an alleged theft case (alleged only because right now it’s your word against that of Uber Eats and the driver. Not implying that you are not being honest or anything). Of course you can choose not to but if Apple advised you to do so it might be a good idea. Right now like I said, the situation is a you said/they (UberEats, driver) thing. Apple no longer had possession and the carrier is the one that would tell Apple what their records show…and would need to be the ones to further investigate. Kind of like if it were shipped to you via UPS for example. If you didn’t receive the delivery but UPS marked it as delivered and you contacted Apple part of their investigation would be to contact UPS about it. If UPS provides actual proof of delivery (like in some areas they will take a photo of the package at the delivery address as proof or of course if they obtained a direct signature) then Apple could close the case and refuse refund or replacement based on the evidence. Different situation than yours of course but just an example of a dispute of where the customer reports not receiving a package marked as delivered and the delivery company claiming they did indeed deliver it.


Ultimately in your case I would think that UberEats is responsible for determining what really happened. The package was in the possession of their driver and their driver for whatever reason marked it as delivered. But that’s my personal opinion assumption based on the information.

Jun 4, 2024 11:51 PM in response to carlosm14

Did you contact the police? You only mentioned one contact with Apple via chat so it was impossible to know you contacted them several times. Did you contact Uber Eats? Apple does not track or locate devices by serial number like you’re thinking. As far as the info on the driver…Uber Eats would be more capable of identifying the driver further than Apple could. Contact the police like you were advised by Apple. If you actually paid for the items and used a credit card to do so you could dispute the charges but of course the final decision on that would be based on their investigation.

Jun 5, 2024 8:32 AM in response to carlosm14

Legislation effective within the country of purchase, and your purchase contract, will ultimately determine ultimate legal responsibility up to point of delivery.


As you are posting within an international community, it is impossible to provide a definitive reply without information as to your country/region.


Different counties also have differing consumer protection laws, which may (or may not) ultimately transfer legal responsibility for an online or other type of purchase to the Credit Card that was used to make the purchase.


Difficulties generally only arise where successful delivery/order-fulfilment is disputed by the purchaser - this sometimes occurring where a third-party carrier is involved.

Jun 5, 2024 3:50 PM in response to KaeBFly

Thank you for the detailed explanation, although I don't necessarily agree with that information, let's just assume they cannot do it. However, they are still in a better position than me to solve this, due to the amount of information they have. For example, they id the driver, his name was shown in the Apple Store app during the delivery transit, but once it was marked as delivered, all details disappeared. I still got the name of the guy as they sure also do.


In addition, considering the time it took from the moment the delivery started, until it was marked completed, only a few Apple Stores, probably no more than two or three are the possible point of origin for this package. Why does this matter? Because they could verify the driver's identity at that point, request proof of delivery to UberEats and push them for an actual investigation of the issue.


You imply that this is just my word against Uber, but take the following facts into account: I am a fully identified Apple customer, I paid with the balance available in my Apple account, which means that I could have only spent it on Apple products. I have not activated the new product in question, nor the family member who was supposed to get this as a gift. I even request a refund with the sole intention of placing the exact same order. Point is, had I wanted two iPads, instead of one, I just had bought two iPads. I don't want to make anyone pay for my stuff.


Apple says the following on their site:


  • Apple uses the best carriers in the business to make sure your order gets to you on time.


Is that so? Is Uber Eats the best carrier in the business for relative high value orders like this?


Again, I did not choose Uber Eats as the carrier for this order. This was Apple decision.


Unfortunatly, after researching this topic online, I realized there are numerous reports with similar cases, which makes it worse, as this shows that nobody is taking actions on Apple to stop this.


I agree that UberEats is the one responsible for determining what really happened, but is Apple who has information to make them do something.


At the end of the day, I am still down $788 on my balance, I did not received my package, and I got a very disappointed family member on her birthday. This is not right, and nobody really cares.

Jun 4, 2024 9:58 PM in response to KaeBFly

Already contacted Apple several times. During our last call their representative explain very clearly that this was their final stance on the issue. Item was delivered and I should report to local law enforcement. But the question remains, I did not choose Uber Eats to deliver a $788 value order.


They have everything on their hand to make it right, but refuse to do it.


They identified the delivery guy, they have the product serial numbers, they can probably check who activated the device, when and where it was done, but they are not looking for solutions, just evading responsibility.

Jun 5, 2024 5:01 AM in response to KaeBFly

No, I have not contacted the police. My package was lost in transit, so either Apple or Uber is the responsible party. My original comment was edited, if you want to read the full comment, it is posted in another popular online forum under the same title. I tried to reach Uber with a complaint over that order, but it does not show online, so I will be calling them for sure.


In addition, how you are so certain that Apple is not able to locate a device with a unique identifier set by them? I’m not going into that discussion as it goes to a complete different topic, but my original question still remains, who is responsible?

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