I can't text to or call Android phones on my 2nd line (the esim) on my iPhone

A few months ago I finally transferred a landline to my esim on my iPhone. I've found I can text back and forth and call my wife (and receive calls from her) on the 2nd line, but when I try to contact people who aren't using Apple phones, my calls won't go through and my text messages won't send.


Please note that my iPhone is saying the message did not send. I don't know if that means it was bounced back. I also want to emphasize that this happens on everyone I know with an Android phone. Some of them have my old landline number (the one now on the esim) in their contacts, along with my "normal" iPhone number, so it's not a case of being blocked by someone on the other end.


I just cannot communicate with anyone with an Android phone with the phone line on my esim. (And, yes, as I'm starting a business and want to make one line business and one personal, so I can ignore the 2nd line after hours, this is a big deal for me - even if Apple support of the 2nd line doesn't allow things like separate ringtones or silencing just one line easily.)

iPhone 14 Pro, iOS 17

Posted on Jun 6, 2024 11:48 AM

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Jun 6, 2024 1:42 PM in response to HalNineThousand

HalNineThousand wrote:

A few months ago I finally transferred a landline to my esim on my iPhone. I've found I can text back and forth and call my wife (and receive calls from her) on the 2nd line, but when I try to contact people who aren't using Apple phones, my calls won't go through and my text messages won't send.

Please note that my iPhone is saying the message did not send. I don't know if that means it was bounced back. I also want to emphasize that this happens on everyone I know with an Android phone. Some of them have my old landline number (the one now on the esim) in their contacts, along with my "normal" iPhone number, so it's not a case of being blocked by someone on the other end.

I just cannot communicate with anyone with an Android phone with the phone line on my esim. (And, yes, as I'm starting a business and want to make one line business and one personal, so I can ignore the 2nd line after hours, this is a big deal for me - even if Apple support of the 2nd line doesn't allow things like separate ringtones or silencing just one line easily.)

SMS and calling isn't an Apple feature, it belongs to your cellphone provider, you'll need to report the issue to them and have them resolve it.

Jun 6, 2024 10:20 PM in response to razmee209

razmee209 wrote:

SMS and calling isn't an Apple feature, it belongs to your cellphone provider, you'll need to report the issue to them and have them resolve it.

Yes, I expected that as a first answer.


I'll tell you why I don't buy it.


It works fine from iPhone to iPhone, which means the call is making it from my phone to Verizon under either sim. That shows that the connections are being made, or can be made, so Verizon's network is working. Their system is agnostic - it just takes the data from a phone and sends it through to the other device.


I've seen something like this before, where I could use Messages on my Mac and send messages to iPhone users, but they would not go through to Android users. (And if someone using an Android phone sent me a message, it'd show up on my iPhone, but not on my Mac.) This shows that Apple devices handle communication with Apple devices differently than with non-Apple devices. I forgot what the issues was, and I did get it fixed. That was several years ago, but it shows that Apple handles these things differently.


As I said, once something goes to the cellphone provider, their network is OS/device/manufacturer independent. One way to explain it dates back almost two decades, to when AT&T was my home ISP. My cable modem was showing no signal coming in to my house. The drone on the support line insisted on knowing my OS. At the time I was using several OSes, but I said, "Linux." She said, "Our internet does not work with Linux." I said, "Sweetie, your internet RUNS on Linux," then, out of frustration, explained how it worked using TCP/IP, how both of those protocol layers were OS agnostic and as long as a computer could receive those packets and send others out according to the rules of both TCP and IP, that the internet, theirs or any other (and that there was no "our internet"), that nothing involved cared about what OS a computer was using.


It's the same with cellular phone systems. To work with one, the iPhone HAS to use a specific set of protocols. If any phone is NOT using those protocols, then it won't be able to make calls. Android phones have to do the same. The network, whether Verizon, AT&T, or anything else, doesn't care if a phone is an Android, a Blackberry (are those still around?), an iPhone, or Brand X. As long as the data uses the proper protocol, the network will handle it the same.


So if an iPhone can't connect with other phones, it's something to do with the iPhone and its data transmission. It's not an issue with the cell provider.

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I can't text to or call Android phones on my 2nd line (the esim) on my iPhone

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