What iPhone models will have Apple Intelligence?
why apple intelligence will be only in iphone 15 pro and pro max
and is there will be an AI for older versions of iPhone like 14 or 13 models
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iPhone 14 Plus
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why apple intelligence will be only in iphone 15 pro and pro max
and is there will be an AI for older versions of iPhone like 14 or 13 models
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iPhone 14 Plus
I really don’t see why my iPhone 14 Pro Max with 1 TB storage can’t run at least some parts of Apple intelligence like:
1- Mail auto categorization
2- The typing feature that helps rewrite paragraphs ( chat gpt app does it already on the 14 pro max )
3- Messages auto categorization
4- new Siri UI
5- smarter Siri (context understanding)
the rest I get it, wanna make it exclusive to the newer phones and all.
but this is unfair. And I’m actually thinking seriously to move away from Apple due to those below the belt moves.
i paid 750 omani rials for my phone in 2022,
you telling me i gotta pay this again now? Come on!
the phone has most of what iPhone 15 pro max has minus just 3 features.
i hope Apple will do something to bridge this disconnect with 14 pro and pro max users and older.
I really don’t see why my iPhone 14 Pro Max with 1 TB storage can’t run at least some parts of Apple intelligence like:
1- Mail auto categorization
2- The typing feature that helps rewrite paragraphs ( chat gpt app does it already on the 14 pro max )
3- Messages auto categorization
4- new Siri UI
5- smarter Siri (context understanding)
the rest I get it, wanna make it exclusive to the newer phones and all.
but this is unfair. And I’m actually thinking seriously to move away from Apple due to those below the belt moves.
i paid 750 omani rials for my phone in 2022,
you telling me i gotta pay this again now? Come on!
the phone has most of what iPhone 15 pro max has minus just 3 features.
i hope Apple will do something to bridge this disconnect with 14 pro and pro max users and older.
Why AI will not work on 14 pro max? This means we need to change the phone every year 👍 Good Job
this is not a rational reason, chargpt can run on a website on every device, dose 1 extra core existed in iPhone 15 really matters? or it is just an excuse?
Device restrictions are going to be tied to the available hardware. The iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max use the A17 processor with a 6 core GPU, where the standard iPhone 15 has the A16 processor with only a 5 core GPU. The newly announced AI features are going to need more processing power that is currently only available in the Pro and Max versions of the iPhone 15. The iPhone 14 also has only the 5 core GPU and the iPhone 13 has a 4 core GPU. There apparently is not enough computing power in those models.
I totally agree with you the iPhone 14 Pro Max is a good flagship phone that is even still beating the new ones out now and for them to say no i14 you are not getting AI is just unfair if they can atleast bring some features. We cannot say a phone that is barely 2 years old is considered a Dinosaur
Apple have published this:
Apple Intelligence Preview - Apple
"Apple Intelligence will be available in beta on iPhone 15 Pro, iPhone 15 Pro Max, and iPad and Mac with M1 and later, with Siri and device language set to U.S. English, as part of iOS 18, iPadOS 18, and macOS Sequoia this fall.
Some features, additional languages, and platforms will be coming over the course of the next year."
I believe that all of the platforms on the initial compatibility list have Apple Silicon processors (A-series or M-series) and at least 8 GB of RAM. There are no Intel Macs to be seen, and no iPhones or iPads with less than 8 GB of RAM to be seen. It's easy to guess that Apple wants to be able to count on the presence of Neural Engine hardware and a reasonable amount of RAM.
That said, the footnote on the Preview page holds out the possibility (not a guarantee) that other iPhones might get Apple Intelligence features "over the course of the next year" after the beta comes out.
Given the NDAs in the industry, the following generally applies:
Those who DO know, don’t say.
Those who DO say, don’t know.
1. Those models have 8GB of RAM.
2. Nobody on these boards can say.
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Apple intelligence cannot run on older devices because of hardware restrictions. The iPhone 15 pro and 15 pro max have A18 Pro chip which is capable of processing the work on device since it cannot be done on the cloud because of privacy reasons. Older iPhones will not get an AI because it would have to be on the cloud which cannot be done because of a comprise to the user’s privacy. If you want to try Apple Intelligence you can try it on a Mac or iPad with an M1 chip or higher.
shirazigs wrote:
To me, If ChatGPT works on my iPhone 13, then Apple Intelligence should works too.
You would be wrong. They are not the same thing. ChatGPT is a web-based service. None of the processing is being done on your phone. Therefore, it doesn't need much in the way of hardware specs.
EmanFlo wrote:
This seems like an excuse to garnish more phone sales.
Gasp.... a company trying to push sales of their wares... who would ever think of such an evil act?
ChatGPT can be accessed online.
Yes. Apple Intelligence is not reliant on it. It can use it if allowed for better answers, but it is not dependent on it.
Not to mention the iPhone 15 has been discontinued.
No. The iPhone 15 Pro and Pro Max have been discontinued. The iPhone 15 and 15Plus are still being made and sold by Apple and still won't get Apple Intelligence.
Also, discontinuation has no bearing on what the device hardware can or cannot do or what features it has access to. It just means Apple is no longer manufacturing it or actively selling it.
It's still fully supported and will receive OS updates for the foreseeable future.
shirazigs wrote:
To me, If ChatGPT works on my iPhone 13, then Apple Intelligence should works too.
Nope. Not even a close analogy. What you have is a link to ChatGPT. You don't actually have the service running directly on your phone, which is what Apple Intelligence is.
egemen915 wrote:
Why can't Apple do this and victimize models like 14 pro max 13 pro max when Samsung offers cloud artificial intelligence technology even to its old devices?
Have you been following the thread? Apple is not "victimizing" the iPhone 14 Pro Max and iPhone 13 Pro Max. It sounds like Apple Intelligence is designed to do much of its processing "on-device" … and to keep your data and your queries from being "mined" by companies looking to build profiles of you.
Apple Intelligence Preview - Apple
"Apple Intelligence is designed to protect your privacy at every step. It’s integrated into the core of your iPhone, iPad, and Mac through on-device processing. So it’s aware of your personal information without collecting your personal information. And with groundbreaking Private Cloud Compute, Apple Intelligence can draw on larger server-based models, running on Apple silicon, to handle more complex requests for you while protecting your privacy."
On-device processing means that the iPhone hardware itself – not some server in a corporate data center – has to be up to the task of storing the AI model(s) and doing all of the related computations. It places more demands on the hardware than shipping your data off to who-knows-where, to be processed there.
aris207 wrote:
It’s very very strange that the oldest iPhone compatible with Apple Intelligence is the iPhone 15 Pro, but maybe because it has the oldest processor that can do a lot of work, the A17 Pro. Only iPads and Macs with M processors can have Apple Intelligence, such as the iPad Pro M4, M1 chip MacBooks, etc. Even though newly announced Apple software versions like iOS 18, iPadOS 18, macOS sequoia, etc are compatible with other devices, like iPad (9th generation), iPhone XS Max, etc
Every iPhone, iPad, and Mac that has an Apple Silicon processor and 8+ GB of RAM is scheduled to get the Apple Intelligence beta. Here I use "Apple Silicon" loosely to include both A-series chips and M-series chips, since both have the same basic machine code architecture, and Apple got M-series chips by scaling up A-series designs.
No Mac that lacks an Apple Silicon processor is scheduled to get the Apple Intelligence beta. Apple Silicon Macs only. 68K, PowerPC, and Intel Macs need not apply.
No iPhone, iPad, or Mac that has less than 8 GB of RAM is scheduled to get the Apple Intelligence beta. All Apple devices with M-series chips have at least 8 GB of RAM. But among those with A-series chips, only iPhone 15 Pros and iPad 15 Pro Maxes have 8 GB of RAM. Every other iPhone or iPad with an A-series chip has less.
The iPhone 15 Pro and Pro Max stand out because, for devices with A-series chips, they have an unusually large amount of RAM. As much as a base M3 MacBook Air, M3 iMac, or M2 Mac mini.
What iPhone models will have Apple Intelligence?