Time Machine Backup Disk Not Found - MacBook via Google WiFi to NAS

Hello everyone,


I’m having trouble backing up my MacBook to a Synology NAS using Time Machine. Here’s an outline of my network setup and the issue I’m facing:


  • My NAS is connected via Ethernet to a common router.
  • My Google WiFi is also connected to the same router, and my MacBook connects wirelessly through Google WiFi.
  • I can successfully connect to the NAS from my MacBook using SMB with its IP address, so the connection between the devices seems fine. However, when attempting to perform a Time Machine backup, I receive the error: “The backup disk could not be found. Make sure the backup disk is connected or select a different backup disk.”
  • If I bypass Google WiFi and connect my MacBook directly to the common router (where the NAS is connected), Time Machine backups work properly.
  • Due to noise concerns, I would prefer not to relocate the NAS closer to the Google WiFi unit.


Can anyone suggest why Time Machine can’t find the backup disk, even though SMB connections are working? Are there specific network settings or adjustments that could resolve this issue?


Thank you in advance for your assistance!

MacBook Pro 14″, macOS 14.6

Posted on Sep 7, 2024 11:48 PM

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Posted on Sep 11, 2024 5:00 AM

Thank you for your suggestion!


As you pointed out, the problem indeed stemmed from the fact that not all devices were on the same subnet. Bonjour protocol, which Time Machine relies on to detect the NAS, cannot discover devices across different subnets.


In my home setup, Google WiFi creates a separate subnet from the main router (which also serves as the ONU), meaning that when the NAS was connected to the main router, Time Machine couldn't detect it. Since I wanted to use Google WiFi’s DHCP for my devices, I needed to place the NAS on the same subnet as the devices connected to Google WiFi.


Therefore, I ended up connecting the NAS directly to Google WiFi via Ethernet. Wireless was not an ideal option due to slower speeds. With this configuration, I successfully backed up my MacBook using Time Machine!

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Sep 11, 2024 5:00 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Thank you for your suggestion!


As you pointed out, the problem indeed stemmed from the fact that not all devices were on the same subnet. Bonjour protocol, which Time Machine relies on to detect the NAS, cannot discover devices across different subnets.


In my home setup, Google WiFi creates a separate subnet from the main router (which also serves as the ONU), meaning that when the NAS was connected to the main router, Time Machine couldn't detect it. Since I wanted to use Google WiFi’s DHCP for my devices, I needed to place the NAS on the same subnet as the devices connected to Google WiFi.


Therefore, I ended up connecting the NAS directly to Google WiFi via Ethernet. Wireless was not an ideal option due to slower speeds. With this configuration, I successfully backed up my MacBook using Time Machine!

Sep 9, 2024 6:19 AM in response to yshrkume

<< it is connected to a common router. >>


OK, that brings up the possibility that not all access points and Routers are on the same subnet.


You want your Router's IP address, your NAS IP address, and your computer's IP address to be VERY similar. so similar that if you held them up next to each other, the only differences would be in places where the subnet mask (on your computer) has zeros there instead of ones.


If any of those addresses is different by a lot, your network is mis-configured (for this purpose).In the typical case of Subnet mask 255.255.255.0, All difference between devices must occur ONLY in the very last octet, or you have connected subnets instead of all on one subnet.


what are the IP addresses of each of these devices? are

Sep 11, 2024 6:34 AM in response to yshrkume

The usual way to get everything on ONE subnet is to run OFF DHCP address distribution in every access point, and allow the DHCP provided by your MAIN Router to percolate through to the most distant devices.


This sounds wonky at first look, but the moment you power on each device, it uses it "self-assigned" IP address to send out requests for a "good" local IP address, and these will get forwarded all the way to the main Router, and all the way back again with the good local IP address.


There should be a way to turn off DHCP for that google Access Point. I do not know the exact procedure -- this is a case of Dig In the manual and you will find it. The terms used for this vary wildly by manufacturer.


With everything on the same subnet, you can run fast Ethernet to your NAS and still reach it from your Mac.


Traditional thinking of network topology is everything focused on the Internet connection.. On my home Network, my internet connection is far slower than my fastest Ethernet connections, I have come to mentally re-organize my internet connection (far slower than my Server connection) as being off on a spur.

Sep 11, 2024 6:54 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

I understand the usual approach would be to turn off DHCP on the access points and let the main router handle IP distribution. However, I wanted to use the DHCP from my Google WiFi system, which I prefer for managing my network. So, instead of turning off the DHCP on the access points, I decided to disable the DHCP on the main router (which is also the ONU provided by my ISP) and let Google WiFi handle all the IP assignments.


This way, my devices (including the NAS) are all on the same subnet created by Google WiFi, and I avoid any conflicts between the two routers. It’s working smoothly now, and my NAS is accessible from all devices through Time Machine as well.

Sep 9, 2024 4:55 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Thank you for your response.


I was able to locate the “macbook pro.sparsebundle” file on the NAS, which indicates that the Time Machine backup folder was correctly created. However, this sparsebundle seems to have been created when the NAS was previously directly connected to Google WiFi via Ethernet.


Currently, my NAS is no longer directly connected to Google WiFi. Instead, it is connected to a common router that both my MacBook (via Google WiFi) and the NAS share. Despite being able to connect to the NAS through SMB using its IP address, Time Machine still fails to find the backup disk.


Could the fact that this sparsebundle was created under a previous configuration be causing the current issue? If so, what would be the best way to resolve this and continue using Time Machine for backups with my current network setup?


Thank you again for your assistance.

Sep 9, 2024 4:58 AM in response to g_wolfman

I had previously set up the Time Machine service on my Synology NAS, and at that time, I was able to back up my Mac without any issues. The Time Machine service was running correctly on the NAS, and everything worked smoothly in my previous configuration.


However, after changing my network setup (with the NAS now connected to a common router, and my MacBook connected via Google WiFi), I’m facing issues where Time Machine cannot find the backup disk, even though I can still access the NAS via SMB and see the sparsebundle file.


Could there be any other configuration or setting that might have been affected by this network change, despite the Time Machine service having worked properly before?

Sep 9, 2024 4:59 AM in response to kaz-k

I understand that Google WiFi may be causing issues with the connection to the Time Machine drive. However, I would prefer to avoid changing my WiFi setup if possible, as it would be quite disruptive. I’ve been able to successfully connect to the NAS via SMB and can even see the Time Machine backup sparsebundle file.


Since Time Machine was working correctly in the past with my current NAS setup, I’m wondering if there might be a network configuration issue or another setting that could be adjusted before resorting to replacing the WiFi access point.


Do you have any recommendations for troubleshooting the existing network setup with Google WiFi?

Sep 11, 2024 7:56 AM in response to yshrkume

I think that works because the request for a DHCP address is a broadcast, not a hierarchical request. (A hierarchical "upstream" request would be dicey because we don't yet know where the Router is or where "upstream" is at device startup).


it is not typical to have the Router and the DHCP dispenser be different, but your network is showing that setup works. By thinking outside the box, you get the connectedness AND link speeds you wanted!

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