USB is still problematic, I have problems with mouse, screen, drive, hub and so on.

This has been a never ending problem with USB devices. I just got worse with 14.6.1 yet again and now my drives disconnect randomly during the day and my notification bar goes all the way down the screen with "Disk Not Ejected Properly". My mouse using disconnects when I leave the room and come back (which I have no explanation for as well) Many times my computer doesn't connect to the Hub in the morning and randomly disconnects. I have had major issues with all USB audio devices as well. This is just a mess and not getting any better in recent OSs. I don't have the same problem plugging either my ubuntu or windows devices into the same dock (TB3.) I have two 4K ASUS panels, several USB audio devices Jabra, Dilpoetry, fifine, u-phoria, I have a KVM and ptonoi drive bay, a logitech and a microsoft camera. None of these are anything special so no special drivers required. It feels like the USB drivers are getting worse and worse with each OS release. I had less problems with my intel MBP than with this M2 one. I am not quite sure where to look, because the error log no longer persists so I can't easily look back.


MacBook Pro 14″, macOS 14.6

Posted on Sep 18, 2024 12:55 AM

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Posted on Sep 18, 2024 3:43 AM

I am sorry that you are having such a bad experience.

If your terrible experience were common, we'd have heard an outcry.

Some issues, probably not so impactful on usability as yours, have resulted in threads here with dozens of pages and hundreds of posts. One would expect that severe failure with USB, if prevalent, would cause a lot of people to post and complain, and that has not happened.


Thus it seems more likely to be a local problem. Maybe the USB subsystem in your Mac has a fault, maybe it is your hub, and maybe it is software.


If you decide to post an Etrecheck report, as suggested, I will take a look, and perhaps others too, and maybe we can find something.


Also: if you can test by connecting devices directly to your mac, or using a different hub, it may help narrowing it down. By your description my first suspect would be your hub.


If you are attaching drives to your hub and they fail, it usually indicates a power problem. You should not attach hard drives to an unpowered hub, as the USB ports on the hub may not give out enough juice to power the drive. A powered USB hub, or connecting the drive directly to your mac, would be preferable (you may need a small USB-C to USB-A adapter if your drive only has a USB-A connection, but that is fine).


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Sep 18, 2024 10:25 AM in response to Luis Sequeira1

Ok drive space has been a problem I agree, unfortunately it's not upgradable. I keep on clearing it but my docker containers and postgres dbs are just getting larger. I keep on flushing all unused images but still my docker vm is huge. I can uninstall things I am currently not using, thanks.


I did migrate, but just using the setup wizard not a time machine restore, hmmm.


Yes I have some USB2 buses and some USB3 busses. I don't use USB2 on USB3 busses, but my KVM only supports USB2.


Thanks this helps.

Sep 19, 2024 1:30 AM in response to richtera

Cleaning up the drive helped a lot, but this morning the problem came back. It was working all afternoon just fine. It seems to be caused by Timemachine kicking in and trying to do a backup this time. It seems whenever any USB connection needs a lot of throughput something is flaking out. Sometimes it's audio, sometimes it's drive access. Then the computer disconnects all USB devices, waits a few seconds to reconnect them. I am not seeing anything interesting inside of the console, but probably because I don't know what to look for.

Sep 19, 2024 2:02 AM in response to richtera

Ugh I am now also getting and error saying "USB Accessories Disabled" Unplug the accessory using too much power. This error is not possible, the device only has a single USB connection which is supplying the power and therefore the USB is also not actually disabled since I am using that connection. Hmmm, oh well, maybe it will just disappear in a new OS upgrade. These things definitely have come and gone, but every time they get more severe.

Sep 19, 2024 3:52 AM in response to Luis Sequeira1

I suppose it's possible, except that there is only a single device connected to the Mac which is the TB3. In addition the TB3 connection is what's supplying power to the Mac in the first place. The only thing I could think of is that TB3 is an older device and the Mac might be pulling more power than advertised by TB3 to supply causing everything to reset. Since the Mac is fully charged up I don't see why it would be pulling a full 100W just sitting there, but then the Mac would be the device using too much USB power? Confused.

Oct 10, 2024 1:19 AM in response to richtera

Ugh, something happened yesterday and now I am having audio and mouse and screen issues again. It feels like a deja vue. All of the "recent improvements" seem to have been reverted. I will try to reboot and do some more investigation, but right now I am kind of dead in the water again, disk drives disconnecting, audio not working and mouse/keyboard disconnecting randomly for seconds at a time. Was there an upgrade pushed?

Oct 10, 2024 11:06 AM in response to richtera

Ok yea all day it's been hounding me. Same problem I began the thread with. USB is not reliably at all anymore. Keyboard has gaps when it doesn't work, Mouse has gaps, Audio works one direction, then the other and then never, sometimes it plays back a whole segment of audio really fast. My drives connect and disconnect randomly. Screens don't always sync. Even rebooted. This feels just like it did before I upgraded to Sequoia :(. There are some sections during the day where it all works without touching or changing anything, but then the problem returns. This time mds kicked in at 70% and took everything down, it's kind of random though and makes no immediate sense.

I am already on 15.0.1 (24A348) in case anyone is interested.

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