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iPhone Mirroring missing in Denmark after Sequoia update

Trying out new features in Sequoia. iPhone Mirroring is missing in Denmark.

Since I am not planning to move, please tell me where I should express my concerns.


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Posted on Sep 19, 2024 3:04 AM

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Posted on Sep 22, 2024 6:37 AM

As European customers, we're outraged that we are paying the same price for Apple devices as US customers but are being denied access to the same features. This is unacceptable. While the DMA regulations might play a role, It's apple responsability to ensure all customers, regardless of region, receive the full value of what we pay for.

This disparity should be addressed immediately. European customers should not be treated as second-class compared to the US. Apple needs to fix this issue .

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Oct 7, 2024 6:02 AM in response to MaqueroSureño

Apple's market dominance in EU has reached what EU calls Gate Keeper Level. This means that Apple must open up so others get a fair chance to work with Apple software and hardwade. I guess iPhone Mirroring is such an interoperability feature. Apple has instead chosen to drop the feature. Likely it is simple to do when engineers work in the same company, but the challenge goes up a level when it needs to become a standard.


Reference: Commission starts first proceedings to specify Apple's interoperability obligations under the Digital Markets Act

Oct 21, 2024 4:35 AM in response to Haddoq

Thanks for elaborating. I read (or misread) your comment as stating that DMA is separate from this feature, not as separate from your idea about price.


Well, price is a result of demand vs. offer, so let's see. As Android faces the same problems, the offer is even. Naturally the demand side has its say too about both.


Frankly, I care disproportionately more about the EU being a place where a company can sell what its customers want to buy from it than about any single company.


Oct 22, 2024 4:13 AM in response to bjosve

Hi bjosve, did you read the article?

"Apple Intelligence-funktioner lanceres i USA og udvides til yderligere varianter af engelsk senere på året"


"Apple Intelligence lanceres først på engelsk (USA) og vil hurtigt blive udvidet til lokale varianter af engelsk i Australien, Canada, New Zealand, Sydafrika og Storbritannien til december. Til næste år understøttes flere sprog, herunder fransk, japansk, kinesisk og spansk."


Unclear if it comes to Denmark or the rest of the EU now with iOS 18.1 (the same article exists in every European country, for example Germany: Apple Intelligence kommt ab nächsten Monat auf iPhone, iPad und Mac - Apple (DE)) and if it comes, it'll be only English to begin with.



Oct 21, 2024 4:14 AM in response to marklnwr

They are separate. I have read the comment that you were reacting to and I'd also urge you to stop propagating false conclusions and oversimplifying this issue. you stance seems like it could be described as "Apple can do no wrong" which is pretty much your critisism of my comment, which is a quite absurd missunderstanding of what I've said so far.


I'll try to make this easier to follow I guess? So there are the two very separate issues at hand.


  1. DMA is an issue in it's current state. The base idea of stopping gatekeeping and such has clear merits but the implementation shows a clear incompetence from EU representatives which isn't surprising since most of them are completely tech illiterate and and grossly incompetent to pass legislature on the subject. One of the main ideas behind the DMA is to protect start-ups and smaller actors to be forced out by large gatekeepers, but it fails completely at this affecting start-ups just as much if not more. This is currently leading to less features being launched in the EU and the products available falling behind compared to other regions. Unfortunately it might be a resonable choice for companies just to skip EU for features that aren't mainstream. However, most of the time with DMA the requirement isn't to enable these innovations for everyone, but just not to actively block or counteract them.
  2. Apple Marketing and Pricing their products as if they were the same and had the same features outside of EU. If they do choose to release an inferior product in the EU since they don't wish to comply with regulations I don't expect to pay for the full experience while only getting a subset of it. This is completely in Apples control and not in any way them being a victim to EU. It is completely fair that they move the cost of these innovations to those who benefit from them and as they are in control of their pricing model there is nothing stopping them from this.


Hopefully this helps you to understand how this, as with most things can't just be reduced to Apple Bad vs. EU bad but is a componded issue that has even more complexity than I'm descibing here.. but I am trying to keep it simple so...


Also, could we be stright forward here, could you just let me know if you are interested in this issue or if you are just here white-knighting Apple so I know if you're even susceptible to further info? Don't get me wrong.. I'm not saying you are, but so far you're kinda giving off a "complete and utter devotion to Apple who is a innocent victim in this" -vibe.


And, as issue no. 2 is within Apples control. That's the one I was focusing on with my comments. I paid in full, so I'll have the full product. Thus the pressure is on Apple to deliver.

iPhone Mirroring missing in Denmark after Sequoia update

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