Imac 27, late 2012, os snow lion, i5 3470, 8 Gb, gtx 675 mx 1 Gb

Hello. imac 27, 2012 the Internet is connected via cable, there is a connection in the system settings, the settings are correct, the green dot is on, but neither the safari nor the App Store can see it. The wi-fi module is removed due to its breakdown. Help!

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Posted on Dec 1, 2024 1:08 AM

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Posted on Dec 1, 2024 2:20 AM

Once you can PING apple.com, your next step might be to back up your Mac, and then work on upgrading macOS.


How to download and install macOS - Apple Support


Mountain Lion is so old that the version of Safari running on it probably won't be able to access this Support article, and the version of the App Store probably couldn't use the App Store links for High Sierra / Mojave / Catalina even if by some miracle Safari worked.


You're going to want to enlist the aid of a modern Mac or PC.

  • Use the modern Mac or PC to download the .DMG file containing the Sierra installer onto a USB drive (a portable HDD or SSD, or a USB flash drive). This will not create a bootable installer, just a drive with a data file on it. If the drive is Mac-formatted, use HFS+ – not APFS. APFS didn't exist in Mountain Lion's day and Mountain Lion won't be able to make heads or tails of it.
  • Transfer the USB drive to the old iMac. Copy the .DMG file to the iMac, then eject and unplug the drive.
  • Open (mount) the .DMG file and run the Sierra installer application inside.


Once you have successfully installed Sierra, the old Mac should have versions of Safari and the App Store that are new enough for you to be able to directly access the Apple Support article from the old Mac itself. Then you can do the next upgrade, to High Sierra, Mojave, or Catalina. (You may want to make a bootable clone backup of the Sierra installation first, just to have something to fall back on in case something goes wrong during the final upgrade, or at a future date.)


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Dec 1, 2024 2:20 AM in response to KennyMarvel

Once you can PING apple.com, your next step might be to back up your Mac, and then work on upgrading macOS.


How to download and install macOS - Apple Support


Mountain Lion is so old that the version of Safari running on it probably won't be able to access this Support article, and the version of the App Store probably couldn't use the App Store links for High Sierra / Mojave / Catalina even if by some miracle Safari worked.


You're going to want to enlist the aid of a modern Mac or PC.

  • Use the modern Mac or PC to download the .DMG file containing the Sierra installer onto a USB drive (a portable HDD or SSD, or a USB flash drive). This will not create a bootable installer, just a drive with a data file on it. If the drive is Mac-formatted, use HFS+ – not APFS. APFS didn't exist in Mountain Lion's day and Mountain Lion won't be able to make heads or tails of it.
  • Transfer the USB drive to the old iMac. Copy the .DMG file to the iMac, then eject and unplug the drive.
  • Open (mount) the .DMG file and run the Sierra installer application inside.


Once you have successfully installed Sierra, the old Mac should have versions of Safari and the App Store that are new enough for you to be able to directly access the Apple Support article from the old Mac itself. Then you can do the next upgrade, to High Sierra, Mojave, or Catalina. (You may want to make a bootable clone backup of the Sierra installation first, just to have something to fall back on in case something goes wrong during the final upgrade, or at a future date.)


Dec 1, 2024 2:03 AM in response to KennyMarvel

There is no "Snow Lion." There was "Snow Leopard" (Mac OS X 10.6) and "Lion" (Mac OS X 10.7). Your Mac can't run either. It originally shipped with Mac OS X 10.8.2 ("Mountain Lion").


The original form of https security was found to be less secure than people thought, and there was a big movement to upgrade browsers and Web sites everywhere. The version of Safari in Mountain Lion is too old to handle the new type of security, and this alone would might make it impossible to connect to many modern Web sites.


There might be a similar problem with connecting to the App Store.


It looks to me like we have two issues:


  • One is to check whether you have any connectivity to the Internet.


  • The other is to figure out how to upgrade that Mac to a later version of the operating system. You can upgrade it as far as Catalina, but since Catalina breaks 32-bit applications, you might want to stop at High Sierra or Mojave. Any of these three operating systems, while out of date, would be an improvement over Mountain Lion.

Dec 1, 2024 2:46 AM in response to KennyMarvel

KennyMarvel wrote:

I did what you said, it turned out what you wrote. 10 packets transmitted, 10 packets received. Everything is fine, there is a connection. So now I will start updating the system.


Once you update macOS, you may want to turn your attention to applications.


If you upgrade to Catalina, that will be enough to let you run current versions of

The downside is that 32-bit applications will break.


If you upgrade to High Sierra or Mojave, many 32-bit applications will run, but you'll be locked out of the Affinity programs, and you'll only be able to get older versions of Firefox and LibreOffice.


Firefox 115 ESR is no longer getting new features – and there's no guarantee that it will even get security updates past March 2025. But it will run on Sierra, High Sierra, and Mojave – and it is likely to be more up-to-date than the versions of Safari that come with any of them.

Dec 1, 2024 2:11 AM in response to KennyMarvel

To check whether you have Internet connectivity, run the Terminal application. (It's inside the Utilities folder in the main Applications folder.)


Type the command ping -c 10 apple.com exactly like that, and press RETURN. If you have Internet connectivity, there will be a line near the end of the output telling you this.


--- apple.com ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 packets received, 0.0% packet loss


If you do not see this, you will need to figure out why your Internet connection is not working. A working connection will require not just that the Ethernet link be up, but that your Mac has an IP address, has good DNS addresses, etc.

Dec 1, 2024 3:18 AM in response to KennyMarvel

It's complicated because you purchased a very old Mac – and there have been many changes since it came out. I'm trying to give you the information needed to keep that very old system running and useful – if you want to do so. Twelve years is an extremely long time, in computer terms. I kept a Late 2009 iMac running until 2023 – but part of that was forgoing hardware upgrades (USB 3.0, Retina 5K screens, Thunderbolt) and being willing to live with an old version of the operating system.


If you want a desktop Mac that can run modern Mac applications, I would suggest looking at

  • The four-port model of the 24" M4 iMac,
  • A M4 Mac mini, or
  • A M4 Pro Mac mini

With the Mac mini, you add a keyboard, mouse, and display(s) of your own choice. The 24" M4 iMac has a very nice 4.5K Retina display, but is only available with a plain M4 chip.


You can find information on these and other current Macs here:

Mac - Apple

Dec 1, 2024 4:15 AM in response to KennyMarvel

You must be looking at the requirements for a very old version of Logic Pro - not the one on sale now.


I have no reason to doubt the system requirements stated on Apple’s site. You might not even be able to get an old version of Logic Pro unless it was so old that Apple sold it as boxed software on physical media, and you can find a legitimate copy on the used market.

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