Safari on MacBook Pro late 2012 with MacOs 10.15.7 does not connect to internet via WiFi to Zyxel WAX640S-6E, while Chrome does

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dieten2000 Author

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Safari on MacBook Pro late 2012 with MacOs 10.15.7 does not connect to internet via WiFi to Zyxel WAX640S-6E, while Chrome does

After renewing my WLAN at home from Wifi 4

(NETGEAR WN203-200PES ProSAFE Single Band Wireless-N Access Point)

to Wifi 6E

(Zyxel AXE7800 Tri-Band WLAN 6E Access Point | 4x4 in 6 GHz, 2x2 in 5 GHz, 2x2 in 2,4 GHz | Triband (WAX640S-6E))

the Safari browser (v15.6.1) does not reliably connect to the internet anymore, while Chrome (v128.0.6613.138) does.

Terminal does as well. (Test with ping 8.8.8.8)

Safari randomly connects, but does not finish loading the page. Mostly it is a blank page.

For me it seems that Safari sits and waits for something. But a timeout message never appears.

This behaviour started immediately with the Zyxel AP. When going back to the Netgear AP everything is fine with Safari.

I know that MacOS is outdated, as Safari and Chrome. So, this is not the answer I expect. (btw: to my knowledge there is nothing I can do about it.)

May someone explain what is the difference?

Most appreciated of course is the answer on how to get Safari back working again as a charme.

Thank you very much in advance.

MacBook Pro 13″, macOS 10.15

Posted on Dec 7, 2024 8:34 AM

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Answer 1

Dec 7, 2024 4:23 PM in response to dieten2000

Consider downloading and running this little "discovery" utility, Etrecheck. It changes NOTHING. Etrecheck was developed by senior contributor here, and uses system calls to collect often-needed information.

it contains little tests for speeds of devices, CPU utilization, memory usage, energy usage and a digest of recent problems, in one easy to use package. it does not even need to be Installed. Because less can be learned when your Mac is running great, best time to run is when your problems are actually occurring, if possible.

if you follow the directions faithfully, its report (pre-laundered of all personally-identifiable information) can be "Shared" to the System ClipBoard, then Pasted into an ‘Additional Text’ window in a reply on the forums.

Use Etrecheck Pro for free:

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then click on the Additional text Icon in a reply footer on the forums, and PASTE

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Answer 2

leroydouglas

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199,098 points

Dec 7, 2024 8:54 AM in response to dieten2000

On a 2012...I would use what works.

Safari is baked into the OS X / macOS your hands are tied if you can not update to the latest contemporary OS for security updates.

third party browser try harder to keep their updates current and compatible for outdated OS's...

Firefox is a good one

Keep your Mac up to date - Apple Support

https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/get-macos-updates-mchlpx1065/mac

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Answer 3

Dec 29, 2024 2:40 PM in response to dieten2000

<< I' ve done EtreCheck, but no outcome regarding this behaviour, that Safari does not load or fully load, while Chrome does. >>

I'm glad you feel better about that now.

if you would like to share that Etrecheck report, Readers would like to read it and make some suggestions.

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Answer 4

Dec 7, 2024 1:23 PM in response to dieten2000

While nothing is impossible, I am VERY skeptical of your conclusions.

Generally speaking, your Wi-Fi connection allows MacOS to create a pipeline to the internet, and that pipeline is what is seen by the Browser. In most cases, the internal workings of that specific pipeline have NO impact whatsoever on whether a Browser works smoothly or hesitates.

We have NEVER seen reports here that a particular internet connection works with one Browser, fails with another.

¿Are you quite certain your results are repeatable?

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Answer 5

dieten2000 Author

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Dec 29, 2024 11:34 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

I' ve done EtreCheck, but no outcome regarding this behaviour, that Safari does not load or fully load, while Chrome does. Then I' ve looked into Console.

In Console there are plenty of entries regarding iCloud, Bookmarks, UUID - but nothing to Wifi. Hm. I assume this could be the reason, but I have no clue what is the root cause, and why it startet with Wifi6.

com.apple.Safari.History (CoreFoundation): Couldn't read values in CFPrefsPlistSource<0x7fba01709f60> (Domain: kCFPreferencesAnyApplication, User: kCFPreferencesCurrentUser, ByHost: No, Container: (null), Contents Need Refresh: Yes): accessing preferences outside an application's container requires user-preference-read or file-read-data sandbox access

CFNetworkAgent (libnetwork.dylib): nw_parameters_set_source_application_by_bundle_id_internal Failed to convert from bundle ID (com.apple.SafariBookmarksSyncAgent) to UUID. This could lead to wrong data usage accounting.

nsurlsessiond: nw_endpoint_flow_validate_delegation [C1488.1.1 IPv6#a473a486.443 in_progress socket-flow (satisfied (Path is satisfied), interface: en0, ipv4, ipv6, dns)] Network Delegation Failure: Invalid Bundle ID "com.apple.SafariBookmarksSyncAgent" [M]

cloudd: nw_parameters_set_source_application_by_bundle_id_internal Failed to convert from bundle ID (com.apple.SafariBookmarksSyncAgent) to UUID. This could lead to wrong data usage accounting.

SafariBookmarksSyncAgent (SafariShared): Operation failed due to error Error Domain=CKErrorDomain Code=4 "(null)"; not retrying because retry interval (40.000000 seconds) exceeds timeout (150.000000 seconds)

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Answer 6

dieten2000 Author

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Dec 7, 2024 2:41 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Yes, it is repeatable. Safari does not load or does not finish to load almost all the time, while Chrome loads.

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