No difference upgrading iPhone 12 Pro Max to 16 Pro Max

After upgrading my iPhone 12 Pro Max 128GB to 16 Pro max 256GB, i do not see any significant improvement on iOS performance as I expected. I do not speak about battery and camera improvements, I speak about usage in general and iOS experience after this "Big" hardware upgrade.


Is there anyone see the same behavior?




iPhone 16 Pro Max, iOS 18

Posted on Jan 9, 2025 3:19 AM

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Jan 9, 2025 1:13 PM in response to Panostav

Set the two iPhone devices side-by-side, and compare.


Via Geekbench: A14 Bionic 6-core at 2228 single- and 5380 multi-core, to A18 Pro 6-core at 3481 and 8502.


If you don't have the old device still available for a side-by-side, then the comparison is more difficult.


And to be clear, you are absolutely entitled to your own perceptions. That's how perceptions work.

Jan 9, 2025 11:27 AM in response to Panostav

I don't agree with you at all. I've owned every model iPhone since iPhone 3G and yes, they are all incremental increases in performance, but iPhone 16 Pro Max compared with iPhone Pro Max isn't comparable. The processor is faster. The cameras, infinitely better. iPhone 16 Pro Max can run Apple Intelligence, where iPhone 12 Pro Max cannot. The screen is brighter and goes to a lower nit. The refresh rate is better. Apps update so much faster on the 16 Pro Max, because the processor is vastly more capable.


I'm not sure what you were expecting, but the 16 Pro Max is by far and large the best iPhone I've owned yet.

Jan 9, 2025 2:35 PM in response to Panostav

Panostav wrote:

And again… the performance of a thousand and a half k device on a latest iOS is not a technical topic to discuss ? please

ONLY if the device isn't performing as designed. To discuss the fact you don't think it's an upgrade isn't really a technical question. Certainly not one anyone on this user to user only forum can help you with. This forum is to ask other users for technical help for things which we users may be able to help someone resolve on their iPhone. Like perhaps, if someone can't access Wifi, or connect to Bluetooth devices or get notifications, add a mail account to their phone or update their phone or any real issue which a user has with their phone. Your "perception" the phone isn't an upgrade isn't something we can help you with. Not that your'e not entitled to your opinion. But this forum isn't an opinion forum. It's a technical support forum. So I stand by my comment.

Jan 15, 2025 6:24 AM in response to Panostav

The iOS operating system remains the same no matter what model you have because there are no substantial differences graphically and software-wise.

Apple should refresh the home screen by redesigning the icons that are the same since iOS 7 (12 years always the same icons) add new gestures and more freedom of customization for example to increase the brightness devise a level also horizontally and not only vertically, add the ability to customize also the color of the battery maybe see it green when it is charged, yellow when it is below a certain percentage as well as it becomes red when it drops to 20%

It should add new animations for apps maybe that when it is opened or closed in system app it animates in the icon itself. If Apple would freshen up in this respect, I am sure we would all notice a more satisfactory user experience.

As for the difference between 12 pro and 16 pro in my opinion you're a little bit wrong because you went from a 60 hz refresh rate to a 160 hz refresh rate and already you should notice that. Needless to talk about the camera and the battery. There the 12 pro would lose hands down.

Jan 9, 2025 11:46 AM in response to Panostav

Panostav wrote:

After upgrading my iPhone 12 Pro Max 128GB to 16 Pro max 256GB, i do not see any significant improvement on iOS performance as I expected. I do not speak about battery and camera improvements, I speak about usage in general and iOS experience after this "Big" hardware upgrade.

Is there anyone see the same behavior?

What improvements were you expecting to see? I went from an iPhone 11 Pro to an iPhone 15 Pro. It felt like a big difference to me. In addition to the improvements in the camera and battery life, it just feels faster. Siri is more responsive. It supports Apple Intelligence. It has the Action Button.


It's like buying a new car that's a plug-in hybrid when you used to have a standard gasoline-powered engine. The steering wheel and the pedals are still in the same place. It still has four wheels. It may even have the same number of cup holders. The benefits of the new engine aren't going to be slapping you in the face every time you go for a drive but they're still there.

Jan 9, 2025 12:50 PM in response to IdrisSeabright

Guys, as I mentioned before I do not speak about battery health, intelligence features and all those model improvements. I m speaking about the performance of os regarding the new hardware. I feel that there is no big difference between those two options of having an iPhone 12 Pro Max and having a new 16 pro model, maybe is just the iOS 18 that gives me this opinion.

Jan 15, 2025 6:40 AM in response to peterit25

peterit25 wrote:

The iOS operating system remains the same no matter what model you have because there are no substantial differences graphically and software-wise.
Apple should refresh the home screen by redesigning the icons that are the same since iOS 7 (12 years always the same icons) add new gestures and more freedom of customization for example to increase the brightness devise a level also horizontally and not only vertically, add the ability to customize also the color of the battery maybe see it green when it is charged, yellow when it is below a certain percentage as well as it becomes red when it drops to 20%
It should add new animations for apps maybe that when it is opened or closed in system app it animates in the icon itself. If Apple would freshen up in this respect, I am sure we would all notice a more satisfactory user experience.
As for the difference between 12 pro and 16 pro in my opinion you're a little bit wrong because you went from a 60 hz refresh rate to a 160 hz refresh rate and already you should notice that. Needless to talk about the camera and the battery. There the 12 pro would lose hands down.

Apparently, you want to argue about or defend your opinions about the differences between the two phones. That is not an appropriate topic of discussion in a technical support forum.


If you believe there is something wrong with your hardware, make arrangements with Apple to have it evaluated.

Jan 15, 2025 6:48 AM in response to peterit25

Totally agree with you Peter.

For sure Apple's Policy and Model is specific all of those years on the other hand when you are making a hardware upgrade such as from 12 Pro Max to 16 Pro Max its mandatory to see a much better performance.


I am an Apple user since 3G model, believe me I can understand what is going wrong.


From my perspective the only difference that i see is coming from refresh rate change to 120hz, everything else is working as it was (Response, Performance and OS Speed in general)

Jan 15, 2025 9:54 AM in response to Panostav

With those minimum expectations, why would you expect a change? Only one phone I know of has a significantly faster refresh rate (240 Hz), response is the response, OS speed and performance are demonstrably better compared to the bench marks. Gamers that are playing games that are optimized for hardware improvements (the ones you don’t see or experience) are talking big improvements.


What does any of that prove? You’re probably not a serious gamer on your iPhone. But since we want to trot out iPhone ownership, I’ve owned every flagship model (except 5 and 5S) since the very first iPhone in 2007. In my personal opinion i think the iPhone 16 Pro Max is the finest iPhone made to date. But my expectations are different from yours.


In the future, do your due diligence and read the specifications and reviews from the better reviewers, not just fan boys and not just Samsung reviewers looking for clicks.

Jan 9, 2025 1:02 PM in response to Panostav

And again, I don't agree with you. What is the point of this discussion? You don't really have a technical question here. I'm sorry you're not blown away by your new phone. I think my iPhone 16 Pro Max is an outstanding device. Unless you have a specific technical support question, what you seem to want confirmed by other users, isn't really the intent of this forum.

Jan 9, 2025 1:23 PM in response to Panostav

Panostav wrote:

Guys, as I mentioned before I do not speak about battery health, intelligence features and all those model improvements. I m speaking about the performance of os regarding the new hardware. I feel that there is no big difference between those two options of having an iPhone 12 Pro Max and having a new 16 pro model, maybe is just the iOS 18 that gives me this opinion.

And I commented on the performance. Perhaps you missed that part of my post?

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