Opt out of Starlink coverage on iPhone?
I saw that Apple would be partnering with Starlink for satellite messaging coverage and I'd like to ensure that there is a way to opt out of this as a personal choice.
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I saw that Apple would be partnering with Starlink for satellite messaging coverage and I'd like to ensure that there is a way to opt out of this as a personal choice.
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There are two separate satellite-related communications paths associated with Apple,kPhone, given the recent announcement.
There is the original out-of-coverage satellite access provided by Apple, and that coverage involves Globalstar.
There is now the recently-announced direct-to-satellite cellular, and that depends on the chosen cellular carrier and cellular plan. That includes the T-Mobile coverage (currently in beta) involving Starlink.
If you don’t want any dealing with SpaceX Starlink, then you’ll want to discuss that with T-Mobile if they’re your carrier, if (when?) the T-Mobile direct-to-satellite beta concludes with general coverage availability. Or discuss that preference with whatever other terrestrial carriers might eventually add Starlink coverage, or with whatever carriers might align with Kuiper*.
The recent announcement around Apple was the addition of Apple iPhone to the T-Mobile beta, as that beta was previously only available to Android devices.
*if and when the Kuiper constellation comes online, and if and when Kuiper then adds direct-to-satellite coverage.
Noelonmuskplease wrote:
You’re right it is my choice. And I reached out to T-Mobile to find out what I buyout was. I’ll be pricing out other carriers this week.
OK. Not sure why you took your time to tell us this? We don't care what carrier you choose. We're not Apple. We're not T-Mobile. Choose whichever services you want.
And when your new carrier does the same, and the one after that, and the one after that, then what will you do? They are all going to connect eventually. You know that, right? It’s inevitable that this will happen.
In order to use Starlink, you first have to download the Starlink app. Then you have to create an account and pay a monthly subscription fee. Apple has just made their products compatible to the Starlink system.
Not true. My son did the update on Friday on his iPhone and had a lot of trouble being able to call or text without WiFi. A few hours later when he texted me it showed “iMessage-Satellite”. We have at&t
lobsterghost1 wrote:
… AT&T uses it's own Satellites.
SpaceMobile is the satellite provider that AT&T, Google, and Vodafone have contracted.
Which were not yet online, as of September (and given a dearth of subsequent announcements):
https://about.att.com/story/2024/ast-spacemobile-launches-first-five-commercial-satellites.html
AT&T is a part owner of AST Spacemobile. AT&T, Google and Vodafone own about $110 million in convertible notes. AT&T also provided an additional $20 million for initial operating costs.
muguy wrote:
Your choice.
Noelonmuskplease wrote:
I am thinking of selling my iPhone.. I have had iPhone since 3GS and also thinking of leaving T-Mobile .. been with them since Nextel/sorint.. I want nothing to do with Elon musk
What would you replace it with? It’s on Android also. Actually it was on Android first. A basic flip phone?
brookentodd wrote:
I don't want to just opt out. I don't want it on my phone, period.
If this stands I will never be buying Apple anything again.
You won’t be buying Android either since they already have that functionality…
What, exactly, do you think you’re going to get instead?
I understand that we don't know everything yet, but in order to add to the voices-- I have turned off updates so that my phone won't update to 18.3 until we learn more. Additionally, there needs to be confirmation by Apple that there is a way to opt out of starlink. If there is not I, along with what looks like many others in this forum, will be no longer using iphones or T Mobile as our service provider.
erinbtaylor wrote:
I understand that we don't know everything yet, but in order to add to the voices-- I have turned off updates so that my phone won't update to 18.3 until we learn more. Additionally, there needs to be confirmation by Apple that there is a way to opt out of starlink. If there is not I, along with what looks like many others in this forum, will be no longer using iphones or T Mobile as our service provider.
If you are not using T-Mobile (or you are but you haven't opted into the beta), not updating is a bad idea. There were 29 security vulnerabilities fixed in 18.3. You are taking real risks by not updating while not actually preventing...anything.
Hello~ But we do in fact know…it’s been posted and thoroughly explained many times. Turning off your updates is much more likely to cause an issue. Moving to an android…that’s your personal choice and comes with many more risks.
~Katana-San~
T-Mobile said its free the first 2 years. After that, no details. AT&T uses AST SpaceGlobal and they’re a part owner. Verizon uses Inmarsat and assume they are part owner. Apple owns about 20% of Globalstar.
Update: T-Mobile’s Starlink satellite feature is now in public beta, allowing anyone in the U.S. with an iPhone or Android to test it, even if they sign up for another carrier. It will be free until July.
Zachyy wrote:
Update: T-Mobile’s Starlink satellite feature is now in public beta, allowing anyone in the U.S. with an iPhone or Android to test it, even if they sign up for another carrier. It will be free until July.
I can't find anything supporting this, so can you please show us where you found this? I don't understand how this would work, since Starlink operates on the N51 band, which ONLY T-Mobile uses for Starlink.
Zachyy wrote:
lobsterghost1 wrote:
Zachyy wrote:
Update: T-Mobile’s Starlink satellite feature is now in public beta, allowing anyone in the U.S. with an iPhone or Android to test it, even if they sign up for another carrier. It will be free until July.
I can't find anything supporting this, so can you please show us where you found this? I don't understand how this would work, since Starlink operates on the N51 band, which ONLY T-Mobile uses for Starlink.
Here you go: https://www.t-mobile.com/news/network/t-mobile-starlink-beta-open-for-all-carriers?clickref=1011lAeHygfB
It says in the first few lines: The beta is now open for absolutely everyone — yes, even Verizon and AT&T customers — to register for free access until July
That's interesting. Not something I'll be signing up for, but interesting.
Opt out of Starlink coverage on iPhone?