How to restore 'After 4 hours' option for passcode requirement in Face ID settings on iPhone 17?

Caciora wrote:

So you mean that if I use apple pay, I don’t have any other option than “Immediately”?

Meaning that I need to disable/stop using apple pay in order to have other options?

this is ridiculous!

How can it be that it worked normal all these years?

I don't remember it being different previously but a lot changes over the years

The article Use a passcode with your iPhone, iPad or iPod touch – Apple Support (UK) which I suggested you read says

• Require Passcode: as soon as you lock your screen, the default for this setting will ask you to enter your passcode to unlock. If you don't want an immediate passcode requirement, change this setting. (For your own security, if you use Touch ID or Apple Pay, you can't change the immediate passcode requirement)."

We fellow users can only tell you What, not Why.

Your views on how faceID should be used has absolutely no relevance to the topic this thread is supposed to be about, which is either solving the issue or learning about the issue. You keep giving off “solutions” that either completely neglect the facts at hand and stating your opinions as fact.

anyways, I FOUND A SOLUTION for people with one phone that works with 4 hours and one that doesn’t. It’s pretty simple actually.

backup working iPhone. Reset non-working iPhone. Restore from working phone iCloud backup. You will now be able to use every 4 hours with both phones. For people with only one iPhone, I have no clue.

so considering I have successfully found a way to have both iPhones set with faceID every 4 hours, you can stop with the condescending “it’s the way it’s been and always will be” remarks because that clearly isn’t the case.

It has to be a bug and I feel like the fact that it doesn’t work with any of the faceID categories proves that. Even if Apple did change the guidelines it should still work after disabling screen unlock and wallet, and it’s not.

unfortunately the only way i was able to change it to every 4 hours was to restore it from an iPhone backup where it still works the way you want it to; which in my case was my other iPhone.

I found a solution! I have the exact same issue since last week after setting up my new iphone 13. The only downside of this solution is that you won’t be able to use face id anywhere anymore if you really prefer longer passcode requirement.

I tried every combination relating to face ids, and no luck. As my last resort, I resetted my face id (if you have stolen device protection on, turn it off first and wait for an hour), and as I checked the require passcode option, all of the options are back including 4 hours! But, if I set up face id again, the option goes back to immediately only. Imo, this is still better than having to enter your passcode everytime you turn your screen off.

Hope this helps.

That's the way it works. If Face ID is turned on, the Phone locks immediately after it turns off and requires Face ID (or a passcode) to open. If you turn off Face ID and only use a passcode, you will have the time delay options.

If the passcode is not accepted by your iPhone, it is possible that the passcode you are entering, although correct in your memory, might belong to a different device. Passcodes are device-specific and cannot be used interchangeably across different devices. For example, if you have multiple devices and each has its own unique passcode, entering the passcode of one device on another will not work. Always ensure you are using the correct passcode associated with the specific device in question.

Passcode Counter:

Passcode Lock Periods: The iPhone enforces increasing waiting periods after consecutive incorrect passcode attempts to prevent brute-force attacks.

1st four attempts will allow you to enter the correct passcode immediately without any delay. Subsequent failed passcode attempts will result in longer lockout periods:

Failed Attempts:

• 5th: 1 minute (iPhone Unavailable)
• 6th: 5 minutes (iPhone Unavailable)
• 7th: 15 minutes (iPhone Unavailable)
• 8th: 60 minutes (1 hour) (iPhone Unavailable)
• 9th: 90 minutes (1 hour and 30 minutes) (iPhone Unavailable)
• 10th: 120 minutes (2 hours) (iPhone Unavailable)

Depending on settings, the iPhone might erase itself or lock indefinitely, requiring a connection to a computer for a reset.

Correct Passcode Resets the Counter: If you enter the correct passcode after any number of incorrect attempts, the counter resets, and the phone behaves as normal. Future incorrect attempts will restart the count from the beginning (e.g., after five incorrect attempts, entering the correct passcode resets the count to zero).

Passcode

Your data is not lost if you have a backup either on iCloud or iTunes.

If you see an iPhone or iPad unavailable message or a "Security Lockout" screen

If you forgot your passcode, you can use your Apple ID and password to erase and reset your device without a computer.

Learn what to do if you see "[Device] unavailable" or "Security Lockout" on your iPhone or iPad.)

iPhone is disabled.

Following this process is the only way out if your iPhone is disabled. The steps given in this link will help you reset the passcode -> If you forgot the passcode for your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch, or your ...

Regarding your data…

1. If you have an iCloud or iTunes latest backup, then there is nothing to worry about. If not read more...
2. You have synced your data to iCloud, then what you will get back is what you have synced to iCloud and uploaded to iCloud Drive; the information that is synced and stored in iCloud are, Contacts, Calendars, Bookmarks, Mail, Notes, Voice Memos, shared photos, iCloud Photos*, Health data, call history, and files you store in iCloud Drive. (*-If you have turned on iCloud Photos, your content is automatically stored in iCloud.)
3. You have imported your Photos and videos to Mac/PC then they are safely residing there on Mac/PC
4. You have uploaded some of it to Cloud Drives using the Files app (iCloud Drive, Google Drive, OneDrive, DropBox, Flickr, box, AmazonDrive, Adobe Creative Cloud, etc). The data remains there.
5. If you have not backed up or do not have the latest backup, nor imported nor you have synced or uploaded your data to cloud drives prior to the situation that you are in, then I am sorry, all your data is lost.

Caciora wrote:

I’ve been using this option for years! In the exact same way, with all bank apps and it always worked!

I don't have it. But then it would be crazy to put down a phone that anyone could pick up and search around in my phone anytime in the next 4 hours.

The Apple instruction article says this, see the part in brackets:

Require Passcode: as soon as you lock your screen, the default for this setting will ask you to enter your passcode to unlock. If you don't want an immediate passcode requirement, change this setting. (For your own security, if you use Touch ID or Apple Pay, you can't change the immediate passcode requirement).

I ran into the same issue and had to permanently disable Face ID just to control how often my phone requires a passcode. I spent hours on the phone with Apple support and got nowhere.

For years, I used Face ID only for apps and payments, not unlocking, and set the passcode to trigger after an hour. One change in Face ID settings removed that option entirely.

Now the only workaround is turning Face ID off completely, which means anyone can access everything on my phone if they know my passcode. Apple may think this improves security, but it does the opposite.

My work requires my face to be covered so limiting how often it locks was my only option. Apple has now ruined that. It’s my phone. I should be able to choose when a passcode is required even if I use Face ID for passwords.

Msqaf00 wrote:

I ran into the same issue and had to permanently disable Face ID just to control how often my phone requires a passcode. I spent hours on the phone with Apple support and got nowhere.

For years, I used Face ID only for apps and payments, not unlocking, and set the passcode to trigger after an hour. One change in Face ID settings removed that option entirely.

Now the only workaround is turning Face ID off completely, which means anyone can access everything on my phone if they know my passcode. Apple may think this improves security, but it does the opposite.

My work requires my face to be covered so limiting how often it locks was my only option. Apple has now ruined that. It’s my phone. I should be able to choose when a passcode is required even if I use Face ID for passwords.

Not sure I understand your problem. You can open your phone with passcode if your face is covered. Tap the Use Passcode button on the lock screen. The only limitations will be Stolen Device Protection and access to Passwords or changing passcode, which you may not need at work, but if you do, turn off SDP.

This thread is about someone who unwisely wants theur phone unlocked for 4 hours with neither face ID nor passcode, because they "control" who can access their phone.