Itunes 10 and Tiger 10.4.11

This is annoying, but not necessarily the end of the world. We can live without the two or three new features of iTunes 10, and Ping looks pretty lame anyway. Besides, iTunes is becoming more and more irrelevant as Spotify gets better and better.

However, the one thing we will continue to need iTunes for is updating iPods/iPhones. I (and a helluva lotta others) will be really disgruntled if you can only get iOS 4.1 with iTunes 10, as I'm desperately waiting to be able to fix my iPhone 3G. I wouldn't be totally surprised, either, as Apple have generally only released iOS updates to the latest version of iTunes.

Those of us on Tiger are generally (or maybe always? not sure) using PPC. This means it's pretty much impossible to downgrade our iPhone 3Gs back to iOS3 - all of the hacky type tools seem to only work on Intel machines. And Apple have refused to give us an official way of downgrading.

So if I'm not going to be able to upgrade to 4.1, which apparently will fix all the 3G issues, I'll basically have a 2 year old phone that has been crippled by its manufacturer.

This stinks! I bought the new iphone 4, but I can't use it unless I update to itunes 10. I can't update to itunes 10 because I have tiger 10.4.11, so I went out and bought snow leopard. I can't install that because my imac doesn't have nearly enough ram. It really makes me mad because nobody told me when I bought the phone that I needed updates, and makes me very mad that i can't even use my new phone the way it was intended, not to mention I can't get my apps off of my computer that I already downloaded for my old iphone!! Fix it!!

I bought the new iphone 4, but I can't use it unless I update to iTunes 10

Why? The iPhone 4 only requires iTunes 9.2 (or later).

Chris A I think you win the award for biggest ********* of this post. Why do you have to come here and try to justify that we need to buy new computers to use our iPhone's and Ping. All of us running 10.4.11 on our mac's have a right to be mad that we have been all but banished from the Apple update community. First it came with Safari 4 being cut from support and now iTunes?? Really?? If you check with Apple, support for 10.4 ended less than 3 years ago. This whole argument that its too difficult for them to program for PPC computers (which make up a huge market share for apple still) is BULL** because 10.5 supports PPC!! The **** program works for 10.5 PPC so make it support 10.4.11 PPC. It wouldn't make me so angry because Ping is worthless but if I can't update my iPhone then this messed up. At least I have a computer running 10.6.4 but i'm still ****** about this because I use my iMac running 10.4 daily. What makes me the most angry is the XP support. It DOESN'T MAKE ONE BIT OF SENSE to have a whole dev team devoted to a 10 year old XP OS that is made by a rival company to make iTunes 10 run on it and not support YOUR OWN LOYAL APPLE USERS with the same update. I'm not drinking the Apple coolaid anymore if its going to come down to this crap. Joined just so I could also show my frustration with Apple and the rest of the 10.4.11 community. If your going to do this you allow us to buy 10.5 for a reasonable price, not $150 dollars. I wish Apple would listen to all of our voices but i'm afraid Steve Jobs and Co. no longer care about their end users. I have been an Apple user my entire life and i'm sad to say that no longer feel the loyalty like I used to with them. If they are going to broaden their horizons to other OS's and support them more than their own they shouldn't be surprised when their OS X market share never gets above 5% once people start jumping ship. Buying computers are like buying a car. If I can get a computer with the same specs with a 10 YEAR 100k mile WARRANTY (10+ years of OS SUPPORT- Windows) or but an overpriced flashy one with only 3 years 35K (3 years of OS support- APPLE) you can see why windows will always dominate Apple. I'm extremely frustrated.

I think you win the award for biggest ******* of this post

That was until you came along.

Why do you have to come here and try to justify that we need to buy new computers to use our iPhone's and Ping.

I'm not trying to justify anything to you or others.
If you want iTunes 10, you need 10.5 or 10.6.
If your computer won't run either of these, then you cannot run iTunes 10.

First it came with Safari 4 being cut from support and now iTunes??

Huh? Safari 4 ran fine on Tiger.

This whole argument that its too difficult for them to program for PPC computers

What "whole argument"? Can't say I've ever heard that.

have a whole dev team devoted to a 10 year old XP OS

Where did you get this insider info? How do you know how many people they have working on anything?
Did you stop to think that maybe there is no difference in the application or the install from XP, to Vista, to Win7?
Maybe a driver or two (that already exist) and a few path names are different but likely there is very, very little code difference between them all.
Talk about a new up-to-date OS, right?

Chris,

I admire your effort here, very good of you. You are providing good information, that hopefully will make it through the ranting.

I don't understand all this anger over not being able to use the latest toy - iTunes 10. 9.2.1 works great with Tiger or Snow Leopard. Tiger at 10.4.11 is still a really good OS and will be for a long time. I use it as often as SL everyday.

Not much sympathy for someone who doesn't check system requirements before buying or worse, before ranting about how a device won't work when system requirements clearly state it will.

Do the folks know Apple is a for profit company. Do they know why it has done so well when Macs represents at best about 10% of the market. Of course Apple sells to Windows users - the other 90% of the market.

Apple makes and sells products with the latest technology - hardware and software. PPC's have been obsolete for about 5 years. Apple is just now tapping into the 64 bit potential. Plenty of warning, especially in computer technology. OS X 10.7 is probably in development.

But the old hardware and software still do what they always did -- what we paid for.

I think that's too easy to play Apple's "get out of jail card here"...
Of course many are disappointed that a rival system is supported and Apple's own OS is not. Also XP is a blast from the past and Tiger IMHO is not.
It gives the feeling that a Tiger user is not wanted in the community regardless if PPC or Intel.
But if I read that you need at least 1 GB RAM for HD movie viewing, well then... it might be too much for a three year old machine cos in the end: There is one major flaw with Apple products: They outdate themselves too quickly. Look at the min. requirements for Tiger and compare those to iOS... I bet an iOS4 will not run on an iMac G4 due to the lack of power. Tiger however... will... mad stuff...


Besides the German website still lists 10.4.11 as compatible with iTunes 10...

and now even worse: every time I login, and want to buy from the store, or change something within my account, iTunes says something like: sorry for the inconvenience, but try later again.
what is this? so I can't even buy songs anymore?
anyone same experience?

If they are not going to support 10.4.11 anymore they need to put 10.5 back on the Apple store for purchase for all those people that have Power PC Macs

10.5 can be purchased from Apple.

Give them a call and explain your situation.

(800-692-7753)

Matt

10.5 can be purchased from Apple.

Give them a call and explain your situation.

You need to specifically ask for a *_Product specialist_*.

I would have liked to buy an Ipad, but I can't, unless I spent 120€ for an old OS (10.5) on an old computer. I cannot even buy an ipod.

I was thinking to buy a new Macbook, but maybe Windows is a better option. If I had chosen an XP pc, today I would have no problem in upgrading my Iphone to 4.1

And anyway the italian apple site still says that Itunes 10 need Mac Os 10.4.11.

I just made a clean install of 10.4.11 for my editing station and I can't find "at least" the option to download iTunes 9.
Right now I am running iTunes 7.

How can I... at least... get the iTunes 9 for download?

Dunno74 wrote:
http://support.apple.com/downloads/#itunes

fast and thank you.

Carlo Priuli wrote: And anyway the italian apple site still says that Itunes 10 need Mac Os 10.4.11.

Which the Danish site also does.