No Volume Control on new Apple TV

Because it can and it's a simple fix. Hide it and let us enable it in the settings menu.

But none of the examples you mention have WI-FI remotes. I like to put my outdoor speakers on and control the tunes and volume from my iPhone outside. Also, PS3s kinda suck.

ugh, what a pain. The whole point is simplicity. Check out how simple the remote is. Now when I hit play on something I have to try to find the volume remote for my TV. Either incorporate the volume level into the AppleTV or allow it to control the TV level through HDMI. My Dish TV remote and receiver do the latter.

And there is a simple solution. Doesn't your Dish remote have universal remote capability? So just tell it that you have some random DVD player or VCR, and have the AppleTV learn the commands of that remote. That's even simpler, isn't it? Instead of a different remote depending on whether you are watching Dish or AppleTV, you can use the same remote for both. Or do the same thing with your receiver remote. Or buy a dirt-cheap universal remote from Radio Shack and have it control everything.

Sitting outside listening to music controlled by my appletv. The phone rings, a new song is louder than the last, someone asks a question...so I go to the remote app on my iPhone and turn down the volume. Gen1 sure but with the NEW Gen2 I can't touch the volume. Seriously - sorry but this seems like a pure BUG and step backwards to me. What a mess, hopefully there will be a fix.

I just want to chime in and say I find this frustrating since it is supposed to be adding features not substracting them from the first apple TV

Apple, we want volume control on music and videos this time.

To everyone, please go to apple.com/feedback and submit a feedback report (please do this everytime you have an issue with anything, they really do listen).

Dish remote is UHF. Tried an IR Dish remote and only 50% of the buttons actually work with the Apple TV. THe up,down,L,R buttons don't work for example.

Nathan Tharp wrote:
Dish remote is UHF. Tried an IR Dish remote and only 50% of the buttons actually work with the Apple TV. THe up,down,L,R buttons don't work for example.

You tried the Apple TV's learning procedure?

Nathan Tharp wrote:
Dish remote is UHF. Tried an IR Dish remote and only 50% of the buttons actually work with the Apple TV. THe up,down,L,R buttons don't work for example.

I posted a thread on how to program the Dish IR remote to be used with the ATV 2nd generation, here:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=12389284&#12389284

I'll copy-paste what I did below:

I programmed my Dish Network 5.0 IR remote (look on the remote bottom to see which version you have) to control my new 2nd generation apple tv.

I used the AUX mode and had to try dozens of different codes before the buttons I wanted to use were enabled. That is, the apple tv can accept just about any IR signal from a remote and "learn" it, but not every button on the Dish network remote is enabled to actually send out an IR signal. Each different programming code enables a different set of buttons. I just wanted to use the blue directional buttons (up,down,left,right) and the center select button on m dish remote, since they are most analagous to the buttons on the apple tv remote. You can tell if the remote is emitting an IR signal when you press a button because the mode button will flash once when you press a button that is actually emitting an IR signal, and won't flash at all when you press a button that is NOT emitting a signal.

To do this, do the following:

1. Hold down the AUX mode button at the top of the remote until all the mode buttons flash red and then the AUX button continually flashes.
2. Press "0" (tells the remote you are programming a TV code)
3. Enter "2", "3", "4" (this is a remote code for a certain type of panasonic TV. I used it because it actually enabled all the directional buttons and the select button to send a signal.)
4. Press the # button.
5. After a second or two, the AUX button should flash 3 times, indicating the code has been successfully entered.
6. On the apple tv, use your aluminum remote to go to settings--> general--> remotes--> learn remote.
7. follow the on screen instructions, making sure the AUX mode on your remote has been selected before hitting the arrow buttons on your Dish remote.
8. For the "Menu" button, I used the "info" button on the dish remote, since it is in roughly the same position relative to the directional buttons as the menu button on the apple remote. shrug
Now you can use your Dish network remote to control your apple TV!

One caveat: If the TV you are using is actually controlled by the 234 panasonic code I chose here, you won't want to use it on your apple tv because both devices will pick up the signal and respond at the same time, causing chaos. You'd have to instead go through and try other codes available form Dish NEtwork's website, here:
http://tech.dishnetwork.com/departmental_content/TechPortal/content/tech/remotes /TechRemo3.0Code.shtml#dvd

Also note there are more instructions regarding the Dish 5.0 IR remote here:
http://tech.dishnetwork.com/departmental_content/TechPortal/content/tech/remotes /5.0.shtml

A handy way to tell whether an infrared remote is emitting a signal when you press a button is to look at it through the viewfinder of a digital camera. The light sensors used in digital cameras are sensitive to UV, so you will actually see the IR emitter light up.

Crazy that one cannot even program the iTv product to control the VOLUME that it is connected to? It would seem that the up and down on the remote, could/should do that. Come on, all it is is remote codes.

This too has been driving me nuts. I used to have the old Apple TV hooked up to my home theatre and was able to control it on my patio with the remote app on my iPhone. The volume control worked great. So I get the new apple tv and no volume control.

So, simple fix. Have iTunes play using apple tv as it's output speakers. Then you use apple remote to control iTunes. Apple remote then has a volume control feature. Music plays via apple tv and whatever speakers you have hooked up to it. Apple remote has all the functionality for choosing songs, playlists etc. when controlling iTunes so it is really no different than controlling apple tv.

Bring back the old Apple TV!
More control with iPod touch, iPhone & iPads. More outputs (analog). Airtunes, is there a way to broadcast to other ATVs and airpot expresses? Volume control (what the cuss), the best part of this system is to control the music and the volume from any where in range of your wifi network and Apple removed that option it seems.

- i think that's not that annoying -
I am happy with the remote of my TV, that's enough. There's nothing more annoying than switching the volume with 2 remotes...!

Just got the new Apple TV for Christmas and have the same problem.

I like to sit on the back porch and control my music (with volume) from there. Used to do it with the iphone remote controlling the AppleTV library. Now, as users have pointed out, the only way to do that is to control your mac library and use the Apple TV as the output for Airplay. It works, but it's annoying. You don't have the "Control" feature available like you do when controlling the actual Apple TV. Also, you sometime end up not seeing the album art on the TV (which again, I like).

Stuff like this is where Apple aggravates me. It's some principle that they believe in (a la no flash on ipad) that makes the users suffer. Yes, I know it makes more technical sense to change the volume at the source, but for crying out loud, this is a simple fix. 99% of the people who use Apple TV to listen to their music will not notice the sound difference. If you're a real gear head, you would never listen to music or watch a movie through Apple TV.