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Airport Express as travel router?

Going to Europe for an extended stay. The apartment has ethernet but no wireless. I'm looking for a small wireless router to take and use. Of course, it would need to work on 220V (and 110 when I get back home).

It would need to be secured (WAP?) and only a few computers will have access through the router. Would the Airport Express be the best to use? My mac would need internet access on the Mac side and Windows (using Parallels). Other users may be PC's.

What is my best option? Thanks

G5 and MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.8)

Posted on Nov 10, 2010 8:55 PM

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Nov 19, 2010 8:41 AM in response to Rick Wilson

Wouldn't the "main" router see only the IP address of the switch and my switch would control the other IP addresses?


This would be true if you had a router configured to "share a public IP address", but a switch is not a router.

A switch is just a pass through device. It's the same as if you had a router in bridge mode. The switch will not receive an IP address at all.

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Nov 19, 2010 8:39 AM in response to Rick Wilson

In AirPort Utility - Manual Setup
Click the Internet icon, then click the DHCP tab
You can make changes here.

You can use the "closed network" option if you don't want the name of your wireless network to be displayed. But there are dozens of utilities on the Internet that will show your network in seconds, so it's not much of security feature.

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Nov 19, 2010 8:43 AM in response to Bob Timmons

Bob Timmons wrote:
This would be true if you had a router configured to "share a public IP address", but a switch is not a router.

A switch is just a pass through device. It's the same as if you had a router in bridge mode. The switch will not receive an IP address at all.


I thought a switch connected to a router would be seen by the router as 1 IP address (or 1 item connected) and the switch controlled which data was sent/received for each connected device. My switch is actually an 8 port 10/100 switch. It is not a hub.

Nov 19, 2010 8:50 AM in response to Rick Wilson

If you connect a switch to one of the LAN ports on your router (which would in effect be the same as plugging into the ethernet port at a hotel) and you have no devices connected, no IP address will be assigned by the main router to the switch.

If you connect one device, that device will get an IP address. Each device that connects will get a new different IP address. But the switch itself will not get an IP address.

Nov 19, 2010 9:06 AM in response to Bob Timmons

Bob Timmons wrote:
If you connect a switch to one of the LAN ports on your router (which would in effect be the same as plugging into the ethernet port at a hotel) and you have no devices connected, no IP address will be assigned by the main router to the switch.

If you connect one device, that device will get an IP address. Each device that connects will get a new different IP address. But the switch itself will not get an IP address.


OK, I think I understand now. So would it really be worth it to carry the switch? It would make giving other users access easier but if the "main" router doesn't allow multiple IP addresses then it would be dead weight.

I don't know what to do.

Also, I was able to change the DHCP address on the DHCP tab. I did notice though that it would revert back to 192.168.1 when Bridge mode was selected. I will have to make some notes as to how to set this all up should the need arise to Share IP Address.

Nov 19, 2010 9:34 AM in response to Rick Wilson

OK, I think I understand now. So would it really be worth it to carry the switch? It would make giving other users access easier but if the "main" router doesn't allow multiple IP addresses then it would be dead weight.


If the other devices can connect using wireless, it's probably not worth the hassle to take the switch and extra ethernet cables along. Your call on that one.

I will have to make some notes as to how to set this all up should the need arise to Share IP Address.


We may go another 2 pages on this thread 🙂, but the AirPort Express has the ability to store up to 5 different profiles. So, you store 2 profiles something like:

Bridge Mode...for bridge operation

Share Mode....when you needed to try the "share" option

In AirPort Utility, click the Base Station Menu item (very top of the screen to the right of the Apple icon)

Select Manage Profiles to play around with this.

Click Help and enter +using profiles+ in the search box for some documentation on this. It's a bit tricky, so spend some time until you get the hang of it.

If you need to get the Express back to factory defaults to start over fresh, unplug the Express, then hold in the reset button and while you keep holding the reset button in, plug the Express back in to power. Keep holding the reset button until you see the amber light begin to blink more quickly. You can release the reset button at this time.

That will get you back to the original factory defaults on the Express.

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Dec 1, 2010 5:21 AM in response to Rick Wilson

Well, my daughter took it to college after the Thanksgiving break and was going to test it at her dorm. She plugged it in and after it started up (Bridge Mode) the light turned green. However, her ipod even thought the Airport express network was chosen had a triangle with exclamation mark. I figured if the AE was green then everything should be fine.

When she gets time I am going to walk her through switching to the share mode I set up and see if there are any errors on that setting and chose ignore or fix the ones I know about. If I use that setting is it possible that I would need to change the IP address which is now set at 192.168.2.XXX to XXX.XXX.2.XXX of the IP address seen by the AE? Or would 192.168.2.XXX still work even if the IP it sees is something like 295.100.10.1?

Dec 1, 2010 6:06 AM in response to Rick Wilson

Based on the info you provided, the school's main router is only allowing one device to connect to the ethernet port, so the "Share a public IP address" would be the best bet to try to connect multiple wireless devices.

Unless you have changed the DHCP IP address ranges on the device, when the Airport is setup to "Share", it provides local IP addresses in the 10.0.1.x range. That's an Apple thing, but it works well. Most home routers provide addresses in the 192.168.x.x range. Either will work.

If you changed the AirPort to provide IP addresses in the 192.168.2.x range, that should be fine as long as the school is not using that same range.

You change the DHCP range for the AirPort by using AirPort Utility - Manual Setup, Internet icon, DHCP tab. If it's on the 10.0.1.x range

The Internet IP address or school router address will probably look entirely different. That's fine.

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Dec 1, 2010 4:25 PM in response to Bob Timmons

Bob Timmons wrote:
Based on the info you provided, the school's main router is only allowing one device to connect to the ethernet port, so the "Share a public IP address" would be the best bet to try to connect multiple wireless devices.


The ipod was the only thing trying to connect. Her computer was off. She told me it would be Saturday before she could work on it again.

Dec 6, 2010 6:24 PM in response to Rick Wilson

Bob

The bridge mode did not work. My daughter could see the AE on her MB pro. The AE LED is blue. She could see the wifi bars but it had an exclamation point.

She then tried shared mode. The IP starting address was set to 10.01.2.02. After ignoring the problem and updating, she was able to get the wifi bars in her menu (no exclamation mark) but could not connect to the internet.

Her computer was the only device trying to connect.

Is there anything else we can try?

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Dec 6, 2010 7:18 PM in response to Rick Wilson

Did she restart everything after configuring the AirPort Express to "share"?

Power everything off, order is not important. Power up the Express and let it run a moment or two, then power up the computer to see if it will connect to the Internet. If yes, then power up the next device and try, etc.

If still no luck, then I'm afraid that it's clear that the school's main router has been configured so that it will not allow another device to perform routing functions on the network.

The only other long shot I can think of is if the school requires registration of the MAC address of the device that is connected to the ethernet port. Something like this might be entered on the school's log in page. In that case, you would use the Ethernet ID (on the side of the Express in the fine print).

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