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  • modular747 Level 6 (18,730 points)
    2 people said that the lag is present in that tv ad and only one (you) said that there is no lag.

    Your counting skills are even better than I thought - I'm impressed. However, you forgot about the 100 million iPhone owners, including all of Apple's employees who don't notice any lag.
    So you better leave us alone.

    Are you 8 years old? What are you afraid of?
  • tonefox Level 6 (9,160 points)
    Ooooohh... make that two people who say no lag. So it's a draw so far.

    How much longer is this nonsense going to go on? How much troll feeding (yes - mea culpa) before everybody moves on? Please?
  • modular747 Level 6 (18,730 points)
    How much troll feeding (yes - mea culpa) before everybody moves on? Please?

    You're right.

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  • Vaux888 Level 1 (0 points)
    Hi, I'm no troll,
    I am a very annoyed user to have updated to version 4.3 and 4.3.1 and now my iPhone 4 is very sad.

    I can confirm 6 iPhone 4 in my environment with version 4.3 with lags very pronounced with respect to version 4.1.

    The restore does not solve anything!

    Will be no solution from apple?
  • RestlessFool Level 2 (380 points)
    Well, you can add myself and my wife to the 'no problem' list, making it 4-2, no problem:problem....

    I can see this changing to a p*ing contest or a 'my dad is bigger than your dad' or 'handbags at dawn' sometime soon!

    Seriously though (and in the domain of 'Support'), perhaps those who still see a problem should visit a Genius at an Apple Store (although it's possible for anyone just to 'say' that they have done so) after they've asked what is it that is different about their setup and settings that might be responsible for what they're experiencing: things like carrier settings and local access to 3G/EDGE/wet-string and their transmission rates, broadband speed/connection, wifi setup, etc
  • Ray-zor Level 1 (0 points)
    Hi Guys,
    Sorry I've bad news re: the iPhone 4 graphics problem... (but I still live in hope that one of you may discover a fix, that Apple has yet to offer).

    I'd hoped that the probs all related to the last two IOS updates, because from Sept 2010 to Feb 2011-ish, I'd been blown away by this phone.

    However, after many reinstalls (as a new device) etc, and Apple's own helpdesk suggestions (ie: the iTunes 'downloading' program may be currupted, so try creating a 'new user' on my pc, reinstall iTunes, & reset & upgrade from that) they accepted it must be a hardware fault, & sent a replacement.

    The replacement did not have either version of the '4.3' IOS (it had an earlier version)...
    and, frustratingly, it also had the same graphics fault (BEFORE any apps, music, data were added; and the firmware updated )

    That means either Apple did not replace my phone with a new model, or, the 'hardware' (rather than the latest IOS versions) potentially suffers this fault.

    I've seen friends who's iPhone 4 does not have this problem (who have installed IOS 4.3.1), so I now suspect it is not a firmware problem.

    From the various areas in the world posting similar problems, I now suspect that the A4 chips that were launched with iPhone 4, have a short lifespan of optimum performance, and that is why:
    a) some customers have yet to experience this fault
    b) Apple have yet to either publically admit the fault (as a product recall would be hugely damaging & costly...)

    The free 'bumpers' were probably a reluctant last resort following the global uproar, and till the complaints gather in momentum again, they'll play the ostrich over this fault (and remove messages like this one, from discussion forums).
  • darknwo Level 1 (0 points)
    No fix yet?
  • modular747 Level 6 (18,730 points)
    Nothing to fix. No "fix" is forthcoming. Don't hold your breath.
  • Kaelang Level 1 (5 points)
    You seem very stalwart in your defense, but I too notice slight stuttering and hesitation occasionally, something that I had rarely if ever noticed on my old iPod Touch 2nd Gen back a year ago or so. I don't think it's hardware related, and even though my personal iPhone 4 is not running the same version of iOS 4, I have in my possession a Verizon iPhone 4 that also has the very same occasional hesitation and choppiness. We have about 4 other iPhones, including several 3Gs's that are running current versions of iOS 4 that also stutter.
    It's most notable when checking e-mails, scrolling, and occasionally when opening some applications and unlocking the phone from standby (swiping).

    To say there is no problem is a bit short sighted, as it is obvious that at least a good amount of units, if not all (and you just don't notice, care, or you do notice and have an ulterior motive) that are running current versions of iOS are having some kind of issue. I recall reading in this thread that at least one person at Apple has verified there is an issue.
  • TechDudeGeorge Level 1 (5 points)
    Please stop trolling ^ MANY people have this issue, I have seen at least 6 threads on this. It's an issue, the animations do lag for the majority. I saw it even on Apple Store devices.

    They should fix it in 4.3.2 or later. It was fine in 4.2.1 so we know it's a software bug!
  • modular747 Level 6 (18,730 points)
    I recall reading in this thread that at least one person at Apple has verified there is an issue.

    There are NO threads in this forum where anyone from Apple officially participates, and any Apple eployees who volunteer are strictly bound by NDA - they would be fired on the spot and sued

    What you read here is strictly undocumented claims that an Apple Store employee "told" someone (also riski g termination) or that they know someone who is a developer who "knows" a bug fix is coming next release, etc, etc, etc. This was supposed to happern in 4.3, then 4.3.1. Now it's 4.3.2. All bovine excrement.

    One of the problems is that there is little agreement exactly when the "problem" started, or even what it is... Some claim everything was wonderful until 4.2.1. Other say it started with 4.0, 4.1, and even 4.3. At least one repeat poster claimed "proof" of the "animation lag" in the latest iPhone TV add (as if Apple would show the world a "bug" they know of and are about to "fix"!!).
  • Kaelang Level 1 (5 points)
    I did notice a short moment of jerky animations in the iPhone ad, and by no stretch is the choppiness that many people experience gamebreaking. However, it is obvious that iOS animations and resource handling aren't as polished as they once were.
    Don't expect Apple to say there's a problem, even if they fix it. If you're waiting for them to say something about it before you "believe" us, don't hold your breath.
    I'd rather not have to wipe my phone, as well.
    It may also be worth noting that the Verizon iPhone that i work with tends to exhibit the choppy animations less than my AT&T iPhone, perhaps due to application/iOS differences.
  • Ray-zor Level 1 (0 points)

    Although both my original iPhone 4, and replacement phone, both suffer from his animation problem, I've also seen friends phones that still work perfectly (& I promise I'm not the sort of jerk who'd invade a discussion group, and endlessly post 'my Honda works fine, therefore every Honda in the world works fine'... )

    I've not heard of anyone who has experienced this problem from 'new', whichever IOS they use.
    So the only scenario that feels likely (to me) is, the A4 processor was released before it was fit for (long-term) purpose.

    Consumer legislation (in the UK) protects customers against such circumstances, and if Apple were to admit liability, the refund/replacement bill they would face would be crippling
  • TechDudeGeorge Level 1 (5 points)
    ^ I can relate. My friend has one bought the exact same time as me but no issues. I believe it's just some. But hopefully they do have an investigation and fix it. I'd actually feel like complaining further if it does not get fixed. They can't force us to upgrade this early in the device line. :/

    But yes, you do have a point. I have seen it on most of the Apple Store devices that likely sit there for ages from release. I tried both the iPhone 4 and iPod Touch 4G and the had the same or even worse on the iPhone problems than I have now.
    Apple need to fix it!
  • darknwo Level 1 (0 points)
    Is 4.3.2 fixing this problem?