mac keeper?

I didn't make this clear earlier so I will now... im not talking aout trojans, im taking about viruses.

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http://www.macworld.com/article/162470/2011/09/new_mac_malware_variant_surfaces_ poses_as_pdf.html/

About trojans on mac

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus

Message was edited by: jorn1234

Maybe you should check your facts, macbig.

the author calls Virus Configurator

Do a Google search for "Virus Configurator". The only place this malware, um, exists, is in a link to your text in this post here. Otherwise, the only other reference to that phrase is Kaspersky Anti Virus Configurator Torrent Downloads. Kaspersky's site itself has no software by that name. So anyone dumb enough to download this torrent is extremely likely installing a Trojan.

which can take a snapshot of the victim’s screen, shut down the computer, display a message, ask for administrator username and password, execute commands, etc.

All a massive load of bunk. The actual Trojan software is called BlackHole RAT. Where the author claims in the text that appears on screen when you install and run it is:

"I am a Trojan Horse, so i have infected your Mac Computer. I know, most people think Macs can't be infected, but look, you ARE Infected!

I have full controll over your Computer and i can do everything I want, and you can do nothing to prevent it.

So, Im a very new Virus, under Development, so there will be much more functions when im finished."

Wrong. He has no control over anything, and yes, you very much can prevent it. Ever heard of shutting down your Mac? Using the power button if necessary to cut off his supposed control? Then goes on to say, "Im a very new Virus". Wrong again. It's a Trojan. A virus can replicate itself. A Trojan needs to be manually sent to someone else or downloaded.

So in the end, yes, you need to be careful with this Trojan, just like any other Trojan. But a virus? No.

viruses can delete themselves and then rewrite themselves, regardless... regarless of proof, people create these things in labs and they never make it out. no one knows there arent mac viruses. there are viruses that macs carry. they may not bring out the chaos that they would on pc or older macs, but they can still be present and passed. which is why you should be careful. since people are actually talking to me about this tho... anyone know any good, real, free, vpn's for lion?

So, your arguing for viruses that:

Exist in labs

may not be harmful

but we should be careful

regardless of proof

no one knows there aren't mac viruses

Right.

By that reasoning, I should also protect my mac against alien abduction! : P

For VPN's

Check out: https://www.getcloak.com/about/features/

I don't know if you'll find a VPN that's both "good" and "free" though.

viruses can delete themselves and then rewrite themselves

In Windows, sure.

regardless of proof, people create these things in labs and they never make it out.

There is no such thing as "regardless of proof". You either have proof, or you don't. Anything else here-say, speculation, or just plain FUD.

no one knows there aren't mac viruses.

Actually, everyone knows there are currently no viruses which can affect OS X. Spend as much time as you want on Google trying to find the existence of an OS X virus. You won't find one.

there are viruses that macs carry.

That's hardly news. You can easily get a Windows virus sent to you in an email, on a flash drive, etc. But they can do absolutely nothing to your Mac. The only danger they carry is you passing it on, which you do note in:

but they can still be present and passed.

While all the discussion is interesting, Apple releases vulnerability updates anytime a true vulnerability is verified. Typically, the notices include a patch or instructions on how to mitigate the vulnerability. While I notice a significant amount of speculation here, there exist am "Authorative" source for all Apple (Microsoft too) security notices. The US Computer Emergency Readiness Team (US-CERT) website publishes and updates the Cyber Security Alerts page. (http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/alerts/) I recommend anyone having concerns over Mac OS or Apple product security, periodically visit and review the contents. ...and, as always, keep your Mac patched since automatic updates always include the latest security patches.

Auto update help keep macs running clean and efficient, however with the types of damages that would be obtained thro highly advanced lab developed viruses it wouldnt matter. this past summer there was a hacker organization targeting an iranian neuclear plant. the virus that they developed was designed to make the processors and hardware overheat and physically ruin the system. they were intercepted by a u.s. cybersecurity co. (im not positive but i think bae). granted that that was a controlled virus, but it was created by an independant organization. im not saying that stuff is in the wild, but there is a potential that it could be. and when programs are harmful to the hardware... it doesnt matter what type of system is used.

How is that relevant? All you are doing is speculating about possibilities, without any basis in fact.

Anyways...back on topic:

MacKeeper is clearly useless.

If you're afraid of viruses, don't be.

If you think you're Mac is going slow, ask these Apple communities for help and don't spring for overpriced bloatware.

agreed... no need to get indepth about something else when the answer to mac keeper is: bad. other then to be safe with the passing of files there is not much need for antivirus software on macs. and if ur runnign windows thro parallels on a mac and u get a virus... no worries. u can always wipe the windows off and run ur mac as a mac with no issues. and taking into account the probblity of someone running windows having antivirus software being high... this little to no need for mac keeper... its all bad man. all bad.

You're referring to Stuxnet. A very highly complex worm designed to seek out and affect uranium centrifuges. No one will admit to creating it of course, but it had to have been a government agency. There's very few other people who would have the knowledge, or reason to write such a piece of software.

Thank you seattle4 for your link:

http://applehelpwriter.com/2011/09/21/how-to-uninstall-mackeeper-malware/

Got rid of that blasted Mackeeper. I tried to buy it online but my card company refused the transaction. Lucky me. he card works fine for everything else. Whew.

Glad to hear that.

Do you mind sharing which card it is. They sound smarter the the average bear. I bet they got bitten enough by purchases from Zeobit so now they refuse purchases from them.

Allan