Final Cut Pro X

Good point, Robert... yeah, I mean nobody knows when FCPX is going to be released, oh.. more to your point, Robert, I've busied myself by purchasing and learning the latest upgrade (CS5.5) to Adobe Production Premium, which has been out for several weeks now and smokes native AVCHD editing, Blu-Ray (I know it's outdated, but I still have more demand for that than anything else). In the mean time... I occasionally think about the upcoming release of FCPX, but I mean, by occupying myself as stated above, my nails are growing back. Love testing and learning a new platform. And who knows... when FCPX does come out, maybe I'll buy it 😉

What computer are you using? I find working with AVCHD and HDSLR media in Premiere a complete dog, almost uneditable because playback is so poor. This is a 2011 MBP.

Sorry ProMaxed...was forced to use Premiere for two years and still can't get the bad taste out of my mouth. I would not care if CS5.5 edited for me AND serviced me personally it will never again rear it's ugly head on one of my computers.

MacPro 8 core 3.2gHz, 4 SAS 15K RPM Cheetahs-hardRAID 32g mem; NVIDIA Q FX 5600, Mac OS X (10.6.7)

And... Robert, I must confess, the complete verdict is not yet in on A/Prod.Prem suite. As I said, I've only had my hands on it for about 2 weeks. I've only been working with test clips, getting my workflow settings established. I have NOT yet started or completed a project in it yet... Have new camera too, which I'm setting up / getting use to. I must also confess that I've not been doing this near as long as most of you guys. My first documentary was only completed last year. Prior to that it was corporate training video. So, I'm by no means as experienced as some of you. I do have a NASCAR project coming up, a documentary and I'm considering posting in A/PP, depending on how my tests go. One of the new touts is increased friendliness with FC apps. So, we'll see. And... I hope that FCPX does come out with native AVCHD support, but from what I've heard, it's not gonna happen. See, when I deliver in Blu-ray, the native format for a BR disk is AVCHD. So, I don't have to transcode 2 or three times if I use A/PP. FC requires transcoding to ingest, rendering, then transcoding again to output for BR, and I have to use A/Encore to burn anyway... And After Effects compared w/ Motion?

ciao,

John

ProMaxed wrote:

I hope that FCPX does come out with native AVCHD support, but from what I've heard, it's not gonna happen

It was clearly pointed out in the sneak peek that it WILL handle AVCHD and h.264 natively. Who is telling you otherwise?

Um, yeah, at the demo Apple did say native support. FCP X is most probably based on OpenCL since it's taking advantage of Grand Central Dispatach. Which means no more traditional QuickTime framework, the system will read native formats. But yes, Apple did say in the demo native support for H.264, AVCHD (just a fancy word for H.264). I stronly recommend reading Phillip Hodgetts blog entry, and looking over Silverado's paper on hardware and GCD.

>But yes, Apple did say in the demo native support for H.264, AVCHD (just a fancy word for H.264).

Refer back to your notes Ben, or watch the demo again. Native H.264 for Canon DSLR was mentioned, and demo'd. But they said that the AVCHD transcoding was happening in the background. TRANSCODING...meaning converting to an editable format. No native there.

I had read this on Ken Stone's site:

FCP X works with AVCHD, GoPro and DSLR footage natively. No transcoding required. Mix and match frame sizes as well.

"Final Cut Pro X allows you to mix and match content without having to do any sort of transcoding. You can take in the footage from your DSLRs, you can take in AVCHD, you can take in stuff from the GoPro and you can just edit it natively" Randy Ubillos - Chief Architect Video Applications

Maybe he misspoke and meant ingesting (doing all the analyzing and stuff) in the background.

Ahhh....OK, that I missed. Nice option. I want them to also mention P2 and XDCAM. So far all that was mentioned were consumer formats.

So far all that was mentioned were consumer formats.

EXACTLY! How is FCPX going to handle R3D files is what I want to know. Can I control the debayer or adjust the ISO like I can in Redcine X. I, like many others, have a ton of questions about PROFESSIONAL cameras and workflows such as RED or P2.

I'm also wondering about what's going to happen to the 100 licenses I have for the current FCS?

At this point it's just wait and see.

I'm also wondering about what's going to happen to the 100 licenses I have for the current FCS?

Nothing's going to happen to them. You have 100 perfectly good seats of FCS. Hang on to them. The might be worth something soon, especially if Apple stops selling FCS.

I'm just curious how they are going to handle this. If FCPX is NEW software or will there be an upgrade. I wasn't planning on getting rid of my licenses in anyway. I'm just wondering how and if they will transfer.

Again, I just have way more questions than answers. June is approaching just beyond the horizon. I guess I'll find out then.

There is no upgrade. The price is $299. No serial number is required as it's purchased from the App Store.

This thread really seems to be making progress.

What no serial number? FCPX will be download glory for the pirates!