So you cant update the 2nd Generation ipod touch anymore?

deggie wrote:

What MP3 player do you have that used to sync with iTunes?

All iPod Touches will continue to sync music with iTunes 11.

Deggie is correct. I have a 30gig iPod 5th Generation Video, an 8 gig 2nd gen iPod Touch, and a 32 gig 4th Gen iPod Touch and all three can sync to my iTunes library.

With that being said, if you are so convinced that Apple is gouging, then file criminal charges and take them to court. Don't be surprised if you can't find a lawer who will take the case...

longrl wrote:

You didn't really solve anything, you simply stated that "The iPod will still function, and you can sync and use it as you have been." Well what proof do you have of that? Because what we are saying here is that iTunes will not let even the most basic functions sync onto perfectly working iTouches.

I own and regularly use a 2nd generation iPod Touch. It does indeed Sync all the "basic functions", and more, of an iPod Touch. My 2nd generation Touch can still Sync perfectly with iTunes. All my music, photos, Podcasts and videos (did I leave anything out?) can be used on my iPod without any issue.

As soon as I became aware of the limitation of iOS 4.2.1, I made sure not to download new versions of Apps that cannot be used on my iPod. Consequently, I have only lost the use of one App out of more than 100.

Is that proof enough for you?

If you actually have a 2nd generation Touch (which appears questionable), then tell us what the problem is and we see if we can help.

However, judging from this...

longrl wrote:

... I own a MP3 player. Now I can't even put music on to it anymore because the latest update of iTunes doesn't allow for that to happen. That's a dirty trick that Apple is playing here ....

So - let me get this right... you do not own an iPod Touch. But you have been somehow Syncing another brand of MP3 player with iTunes, and now you're bleating because you can't do so anymore.

It's not Apple's responsibilty to make your "MP3 player" work with their programme; one that has been specifically designed to work with their products.

Take careful note of the above.

Now - back to the proof thing.

If my telling you about my iPod Touch isn't enough proof for you, I can show it to you if you prefer.

We can meet tomorrow morning by Nelson's Column in Trafalgar Square, London at 8:55am. Be prompt, because I can't hang around, I'm a busy man. I have to spend (far too much) time responding to posts such as yours.

😐

By the way, I have read a news item that makes it failry clear why the push from iOS 4.2.1 to iOS 4.3 took place. I referred to it in another thread, but since no one has responded to it, I have let it drop.

I was half expecting the post to be removed...

This is very upsetting indeed.

I have a second generation iPod Touch (8GB) and I've never had any problems with it, never jailbroken either and I still use it daily! I only realized that I couldn't go past 4.2.1 a few months ago and that really ticked me off. While sure, my iPod can sync properly with iTunes, my main problem is that I cannot install new apps at all without it telling me "The device is not up to date" or something along those lines. I would love to get new apps for my device and not play the same things over and over and over.

I tried sending emails to Apple about this issue, see if they could do anything about it. Of course, since my warantee was long done, they won't send me a new iPod even if my own iPod is working fine. In the end, the representative just flat out told me to buy a new one ("[...]as mentioned in a previous email the only resolution is for you to purchase a new device").

They did, however, send me a new iPod nano for free though (it was during that recall on the first generation iPod nano). But for this? No.

It's unacceptable and I refuse to buy another one and they won't get any more money from me, that's for sure.

My issue isn't that I can't go beyond 4.2, in my gen 2 iTouch, it's that by going from 3.* to 4.2 (and encouraged to do so every time I plugged it in) it broke all the apps that previously worked under 3.0 and when you try to download them again, you can't because rather than default to the version of the app that worked with 4.2 (which they could easily have done) Apple defaults to the 5.0 version which now won't work on the upgraded iTouch. Apple could have easily prevented this by doing as they do with early iPod versions and suggest that the older models have no more upgrades available after 3.* Then everything will still work and if you must have 5.0 you can buy a newer model. Fine. But the older model would not have been broken and made dysfunctional. I now have a brick after the upgrade. I can no longer use any of the ereader apps (the only ones I cared about) on my device. It's unfortunate that Apple has so locked down the OS preventing third-party hacks from making work-arounds.

I also have a Samsung Media Player 5 which works great (Gingerbread OS version of Android). In fact it works so well, I'll probably dump my iPhone in favor of some Samsung Android model next go-around. Many people complain because Samsung hasn't released a Jelly Bean upgrade, but that works in the user's favor since he doesn't have to worry about the upgrade messing with what he has. If you want to, of course, there are hacks galore that permit you to load the new version and since everything I have run across is backwardly compatible, it's just not an issue. Bear in mind that historically, open systems, even if technologically inferior (remember Betamax?) always beat out closed systems. It's one reason why the PC continues to dominate the market. Note that the iPod itself never took off until it was made available for Windows. Apple needs to bear that in mind as they continue to lock-down their eco-system. Their huge hardware-software link advantage may not last and these kinds of ostensibly small decisions will continue to **** off users and their fan-boy base, alread becoming extremely defensive, will diminish to a relatively small hardcore.

Message was edited by: ericfromforreston

This thread has gone on long enough. The real problem here is not Apple and their upgrade policies. The real problem is spoiled end users who are too lazy to keep a current backup (Apple made that fucntionality a part of iTunes), and too lazy to do a little research before they upgrade.

Y'All need to get a life...

do what the apple apologist says!

Does anyone know where I can get an old Kindle app for my 2nd gen iPod Touch? I have a perfectly good iPod that still works (and still syncs) except that although I was careful not to update my apps from iTunes, but from my iPod itself, I still ended up with an updated Kindle app and now it won't work on my iPod. I talked with the Kindle troubleshooting rep from Amazon and she said she thought there was a way to get our old apps back from iTunes when this happens. However,from the looks of this forum, I'm SOL?

If you still had the old app stored in iTunes or had a backup that would be the way to restore it

Why does my 5 year old iPod work better and more efficiently than my iPhone 4S or my iPad? I haven't updated in 2 years & it's tremendous. However my phone & iPad are getting ditched. ****** performance appears the acceptable norm with Apple now!

I have just bought an Ipod 2nd gen for my daughter and cannot seem to find any free apps that are compatible with her IOS, any help please???

gizmo1978 wrote:

I have just bought an Ipod 2nd gen for my daughter and cannot seem to find any free apps that are compatible with her IOS, any help please???

Get your money back.

Look at vintapps in the app store. Loads of free apps for the older devices.

So are we still talking about this topic or do we understand each other now?

I am thoughly '******' for my son has a 2nd generation iPod Touch and it works perfect, however Itunes decided to go haywire and deleted ALL his apps and when he tries to install something as simple as free checkers, it wont work for it says it needs iOS 4.3. This is nuts for it the same program(s) that he had before and all of a sudden I can't download them on the Itouch or though Itunes on the PC??

This has to be 'wrong' for we are not talking about state of the art applications.

Mike