So you cant update the 2nd Generation ipod touch anymore?

Bring back his onld applications from the backup of your computer and you can reinstall them.

The REAL issue is Apple should make available all the old versions of app software on apps the customers purchased. I'm sorry, but I have been an Apple good customer for many years, but this issue is being skewed by Apple. The issue is not support, but deception. One of my early purchases was an iPod touch, 2nd gen. I used several apps, one example was Tunein radio. (Some were "free", some purchased). I periodically received notices about "updates" to these Apps. The problem was after updating, the App could not function. If I never updated the App, I could continue to use the products I purchased, no opition of going back to an older version of the App. Apple is using "support" as a Red Herring issue. I still have an old PC I purchased in 2000, running Word from 2000. I can still read and write Word documents. I know neither the machine, nor Windows XP is under warranty, but all the software I purchased "WORKS".

It's the user's responsibility to check requirements and to keep regular backups.

vazandrew wrote:

It's the user's responsibility to check requirements and to keep regular backups.

AMEN, and AMEN!!!

Right. Just like it is the responsiblity of each and every user of all ages and education level to spend time to fully read and understand all parts of the the (currently) 25 page terms and conditions agreement, each time it is periodically updated by Apple's legal team, before they click "Agree" so they can properly use the device they bought.

Exactly.

Thats right, stick up for the multi million dollar organization and pass the blame on the little buyer. By the way, Mr Apple Shill, no warning is given when you receive a notice about an updated app that may cease to work on your "ancient" 3 year old machine.

Remember the days when Apple TV commercials featured the cool young hip guy in jeans and the PC man was a stuffy old middle aged guy in a suit? those commercials certainly did NOT warn you that all the "fun" your Apple product gave you were predicated on reading a ton of legal warnings...Sounds like now, Apple is the Bully on the block stepping on baby chicks and blaiming the chicks...

Cal30m1 said, "no warning is given when you receive a notice about an updated app that may cease to work on your "ancient" 3 year old machine."

I agree with you on the first part of this statement, if an update will not run on a particular device with a particular OS it should tell you that it won't work and it should not let you install it. Just like if you are trying to purchase a new app. But saying it here won't accomplish anything, you need to send it here: http://www.apple.com/feedback/ipodtouch.html

Now you're just whining. That is advertising.

Maybe Apple has made it too easy to use their products and people now think they have no reason to read the manual or learn anything about it. The consumer still has control over how they use or misuse their products.

By the way, my "negative comments" are not directed to you Airwa1k and solverWiz, just to the Apple Shills, who worship at the Alter of their Apple Cult. Imagine how much money Apple is making by forcing taxpayers to get an iPad, Mac Book, Air, etc, for every school child in the country? But to let some poor schmuck listen to TuneIn radio on his ancient 5 year old Touch, "Dont't you dare"!!!

Unfortunately, other Bullies eventually went belly up by screwing the peasants...

SolverWiz wrote:

Right. Just like it is the responsiblity of each and every user of all ages and education level to spend time to fully read and understand all parts of the the (currently) 25 page terms and conditions agreement, each time it is periodically updated by Apple's legal team, before they click "Agree" so they can properly use the device they bought.

Well, not exactly. End users need to read the Terms And Conditions so they will know what Apple is and is not responsible for, and at the same time, that same document lets end users know what they are and are not responsible for. To learn how to properly use a given device all one has to do is download and read the user manual.

In summation, it is obvious that you and others like you did not read the Terms And Conditions, nor did you read the user manual, and as a result you have placed yourselves in an undefendable situation.

FWIW, I would like to see Apple maintain support for legacy devices, but when you take into consideration that product support does not earn the company any money, how can you falut them for cutting their losses? Even their long time rival Microsoft has dropped support for every thing from DOS 1.0 to Windows XP..

The bottom line is, technology has moved on and its time you did too.

We don't have much control when the government is in bed with Apple. Yes, politics makes strange bedfellows. Does anyone care that almost every student in the entire county is now forced to use an Apple product? No choice, taxpayers fork out the money. Any drone who thinks he has to defend the billion dollar company against one customer wanting to use the Apps he paid for is pathetic...

deggie wrote:

Cal30m1 said, "no warning is given when you receive a notice about an updated app that may cease to work on your "ancient" 3 year old machine."

I agree with you on the first part of this statement, if an update will not run on a particular device with a particular OS it should tell you that it won't work and it should not let you install it. Just like if you are trying to purchase a new app. But saying it here won't accomplish anything, you need to send it here: http://www.apple.com/feedback/ipodtouch.html

That is not the issue. The issue is someone wants to install a version of iOS that just will not run on a 2nd Gen. In line with that fact, others are crying about loosing all of their "stuff" because they don't have any backups to restore from.

Neither of these complaints will have any merit in a court of law. Game Over....

I understand the issue. I also understand that apps can (and do) inform you that an update is available, you tap update all, and it installs them all. Then when you try to run the app, which has overwritten the previous version, it says it is not compatible with your device.

I understand all about keeping versions on the computer, having backups, etc., etc. and I understand all the arguments here. But Apple is wrong and needs to change their update system so it will not allow an updated app to be installed on a device that cannot run that version. It makes no sense to allow this.

I sent my feedback in about this sometime back. I'm not going to sue, whine or act the fool with moronic statements about the government being in bed with Apple, and every student having to use Apple (they wish). But he apparently got luck and did make one statement that made sense. But it is a waste of time to post it here, better to send it to feedback.