How do I get flash player on iPad.

It is steadfast ignorance in the anti-Apple brigade that post on Apple forums offered to help Apple users that is the greater problem.

tonefox wrote:

It is steadfast ignorance in the anti-Apple brigade that post on Apple forums offered to help Apple users that is the greater problem.

Please tell me how people who are asking why something which many websites use is not supported on Apple products, is anti-Apple? they simply want to know why they can only use non flash websites.

Apple do not advertise the fact that flash is not supported, You cannot fully browse the internet on an iPad or an iPhone, So Apple should really state this on their website.

Why dont they?? because many people would'nt buy Apple.

And Wendynanon is right, every forum i have ever used, Samsung LG, when users have a problem the other members help them, Not on the Apple forums, any problem someone may have is put down to user error, I have read posts about Battery drain issues, and those certain members have suggested that battery drain issues are in the imagination of the members suffering from it. many members on here I could name all their names, are condescending, arrogant, and darn right patronising.

seriously need to get something other than Apple in their lives

For many reasons, Adobe Flash has never been available for iOS devices (and now for almost no other mobile device either).

Websites will need to get with the plan and change/update their content from Flash to html5 if they want anyone with a mobile device to access their pages.

Travinzo wrote:

Michael, my intent was not to ask or answer questions, just offer a few observations. Is that not ok on this forum? And your contribution was to point out my many unidentified, but misguided and unfounded beliefs, eh Mike? Gotcha....

Trav, I realize you were simply offering observations. When it comes to your innocent "Is that not ok ..." question, then let me say that IMHO at least no, it is not, and for the following reasons ll contained in the TOU for these forums which you, it seems, remain ignorant of. As for your evaluation of my contribution, well, actually old son, I simply omitted those parts of your post which contained only your misguided and unfounded beliefs. The fact that that left so little behind is unfortunate but, well, there you are.

First, what is meant to be posted here? Again, from the TOU for these forums:

Stay on topic. Apple Support Communities is here to help people use Apple products and technologies more effectively. Unless otherwise noted, do not add Submissions about nontechnical topics, including:

1. Speculations or rumors about unannounced products.
2. Discussions of Apple policies or procedures or speculation on Apple decisions.

Expanding on that a bit, it goes on to state ...

Post constructive comments and questions. Unless otherwise noted, your Submission should either be a technical support question or a technical support answer. Constructive feedback about product features is welcome as well. .......

Nothing in the complaints and pontifications you posted will ever result in any change in Apple's well-advertised and clearly stated policies and procedures, and there cant really be considered in any way constructive.

And, finally ...

Be polite. Everyone should feel comfortable reading Submissions and participating in discussions. Apple will not tolerate flames or other inappropriate statements, material, or links. Most often, a "flame" is simply a statement that is taunting and thus arbitrarily inflammatory.

Those, perhaps including you yourself, who insist on conflating everyone who doesn't share your messianic pro-Flash zeal, or who merely understand Apple's decisions on Flash in iOS and the reasons behind it, are usually consigned to the dustbins of being "Apple Fanboys" and the like, clearly a taunting and arbitrarily inflammatory statement.

In summary: Apple worked with Adobe for a long time before the introduction of iOS, and for an even longer time before the iPad was introduced, in an attempt to come up with a solution to integrating Flash. Adobe was never able to provide a product prior to the introduction of the iPhone that worked in a way acceptable to Apple and, in fact, didn't come up with anything at all that worked at any reasonable level until November of last year and that only on the very newest of the specially modified versions of the Android OS. Apple wasn't willing to sacrifice their platforms performance and battery life to accomodate the shortcomings of a kludged Flash development environment and simply turned away from it. Those who insist that Apple somehow hid this fact are simply ignorant of the history and the facts. They (Apple, that is) aren't going to change their minds and, as has been amply, clearly, and continually pointed out in these and other forums, Adobe isn't any longer interested in working to provide anything either. Shortly put, it's over, get over it ....

The horse is dead now. You can stop flogging it.

Allan

And part of those terms you posted say Be Polite! I suggest the fanboys re read the terms, as they don't make anyone feel comfortable with their snide patronising replys.

DavidK2010 wrote:

And part of those terms you posted say Be Polite! I suggest the fanboys re read the terms, as they don't make anyone feel comfortable with their snide patronising replys.

Flash is not and will never be available for iOS. What's snide about that statement? What's so hard to understand about that fact?

lkrupp wrote:

Flash is not and will never be available for iOS. What's snide about that statement? What's so hard to understand about that fact?

There is nothing snide about that comment, but im not refering to that comment now am I?

I suggest you read the posts back and just see how snide patronising and condescending some of the members on here are.

Adobe abandoned Flash on ALL mobile devices nearly 2 months ago:

http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2011/11/flash-focus.html

I fail to understand what all of the arguing is about. It's not going to happen on iOS, period. *****, moan, complain all you want, it's still not happening.

Demand an explaination! Steve did back in April of 2010:

http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/

Demand an apology! I'll say it, Sorry.

Demand your money back... Feel free.

Better yet, put your iOS device on Craiglist, sell it to some lucky individual, and move on down the Win8 or Android road. I see people stating this, like it's a threat. I'm not sure who's feelings you think you're going to hurt by doing this, but I think you've overestimated your own self worth.

Instead, what needs to happen is full support to get rid of Flash altogether, so there's not this split environment, where desktop machines can access flash content, but mobiles can't.

http://www.occupyflash.org/

Sure, I'd like to be able to play Flash on my iPad or iPhone, but I knew going into this that Apple had abandoned the platform. The information was not secret, and, as with ANY other consumer product you own, if it really doesn't do what you want, sell it and buy something that does.

Just a few clarifictions Michael, then I'll "get over it". First, I am by no means an Apple "fanboy", and how you came to that conclusion based on my one lone post is quite a reach. My rhetorical question about whether or not it was ok to post observations, rather than questions or answers, had nothing to do with your omission of any details. Believe it or not, I was able to discern the point of your clearly short, condescending opening statement without having to ponder the quotes you chose to include in your reply, quotes intended to support your subsequent unsubstantiated speculation regarding my post. Let's be honest Mike (if you prefer Michael, just let me know), 90% of any comments about why Apple doesn't support Flash is pure speculation. I don't pretend to have any more insight into the question than your basic Apple product user, which I thought I made clear in my post. If I didn't, I apologize if I misled anyone into concluding that my opinion was more valid than the dozens of other folks who offered their opinion about Apple and Flash in this very thread. For you to single me out and suggest I was somehow violating a section of the TOU due to my "innocent" remark about posting observations, which you evidently interpreted as a "taunt" or "flame" (a remark I included solely due to your initial rude, condescending reply) was simply wrong and uncalled for. You then go on to suggest that I "perhaps" am one of those folks who "conflate everyone who doesn't share your (my) messianic pro-Flash zeal" (you really arrived at that bizzare statement based on my post??), "or who merely understand Apple's decisions on Flash in iOS and the reasons behind it, are usually consigned to the dustbins of being "Apple Fanboys" and the like, clearly a taunting and arbitrarily inflammatory statement." So you were able to divine from my one and only post that I'm one of those dreaded Apple Fanboys who are usually consigned to the dustbins due to my "taunting" and "arbitrarily inflammatory" statement? In other words, disagreeing with you? By no means was my statement arbitrary Mike...as I mentioned previously, it was included due to your rude assessment of my post. Is this how you normally welcome a first time user to this discussion forum? To everyone else who might be reading this, I never intended what I thought was just another possible theory to devolve into petty, completely unsubstantiated accusations. I've been struggling with depression and simply looking for a discussion forum I might be interested in as an avid Apple gadget user, and maybe even participate and express an opinion now and again. Instead, I'm berated, browbeaten and belittled by someone who evidently has backdoor connections to Apple and Adobe, and knows definitively why Apple doesn't support Flash. I'm sorry if I came across as some kind of rabid, out of control poster who had the gall to express an opinion, one of many on this thread. Obviously I said the wrong thing and rubbed Mike the wrong way, but I didn't think I was deserving of the scrutiny I was subjected to. And I never really cared if Apple supported Flash or not, I just didn't buy that it wasn't technically possible. It was fun while it lasted, I do believe it's off to the dustbin for me!

Nothing personal and not specific to just your last post, but man people need to read what they write before posting. Maybe hold on to it for a day before hitting send. And I'm not just referring to the appalling examples of misspelling and gross grammatical errors and general signs of illiteracy in these fora. It's the obsession with the mundane. It's a God ****** widget. It's inanimate. Outside your window no matter where you live there are signs of a world that is four billion years old. Thousands of people die in it everyday from starvation and violence. This thread about Flash was started months ago. And it provides a tiny window into the tiny, wasted lives of idiots who think a device and what people think of it, matters. Put the ******* pad down and breath some air. Think about helping instead of consuming. And for God's sake don't respond. You'll only prove my point.

If you reply is aimed at me, then Flash on iOS doesn't bother me anymore, I have realised that the iPhone and iPad cannot fully browse the Internet so I don't use them for that anymore, I use my computer. What does bother me is people coming on here for help and being belittled by certain members.

Also Apple do not advertise Flash is not supported, and they should also state that you can only browse a limited amount of the Internet.

A friend has a Blackberry Playbook and flash works perfectly on that, obviously people are going to ask why Apple wouldn't support it, and don't come back with Adobe could make a compatible version because we all know the restrictions Apple set made it impossible.

RC, you probably knew I would respond, despite your advice that I would be proving your point if I engaged in yet more pointless obsessing with the mundane. Believe it or not, I agree with the gist of your post, but I thought you made some statements and arrived at conclusions that suggested you somehow know me to the extent that you can pidgeonhole what's important to me, and even categorize my reason for existance based on a couple of posts. Was my reply to Michael overboard based on the subject and completely useless relative to the state of the world and ultimately the meaning of life? Absolutely. Maybe I should have ignored Michael's reply for the same reason you're suggesting I not reply to yours, that there comes a time when a subject has been beaten to death repeatedly, I should know when that time is, realize that I'm engaging in an activity that is a complete waste of time, and accept the fact that someone, anyone, should have the last word on any given subject, lest they expose themselves as completely unaware of what really matters. Yes, constant misspelling and gramatical errors can be annoying, but I don't believe anyones point should be dismissed or thought of as less important due to such errors. In closing, I'm well aware of our world that is 13 billion years old and the mindless violence and starvation that is only getting worse at an alarming rate. And I'm not an idiot with a tiny, wasted life, and rarely feel the need to blow my own horn, but for 10 yrs I worked with developmentally disabled (DD, aka ********, but that term has been deemed un-PC, despite the fact that it more accurately describes their condition) teens ranging from moderately to severly ********, teens that had nasty behavioral problems that prevented them from mingling with the general population in any way, as well as a houseparent working with DD adults in a residential setting. Thereafter, my wife and I worked as houseparents in group homes with wayward or delinquent kids who couldn't live at home for one reason or another (abuse, constantly running away or butting heads with authorities, etc.). I'm not looking for any praise, I say this only to demonstrate that I've made a small contribution to those in need, over and above mindlessly reading and replying to a subject I should have known had already been exhausted, a subject too meaningless to categorize. My apologies for not taking your advice RC, but you know me, right?

Again, the point is simple. The ipad - which I love - is limited as a consumer device for browsing and using the internet. If you don't believe me, then pull up almost every mainstream review...

This does not make it bad or even make apples terchnology decision wrong. But it is a continuing problem and iritation for people who use their device to access internet content. Just today I was asked to review something in flash on the web and had to tell them that I would have to do it once I got home to my desktop...

Those who love Apple seem to "blame" the website deveolpers or content providers each time they run into a problem. They seem to say "Those idiots just don't get it" and they think that users who run into problems are similarly clueless...

Ironicallly, they are doing exactly what PC users used to do to Apple. Blaming the user is against the entire ethos that Apple has led. Whay have a simple to use interface when "real power" users will know how to enter the correct keystrokes??? :)

The user should not have to figure out _WHY_ it does not work. it should just work. Read that guy Steve Jobs if you don't believe me...:)

Again, this does not mean that Apple was / is wrong. But denying that it is an inconvenience and a problem is just silly. Just admit that you know it is a problem, but decided that it was the right decision in the long term...defend on the merits rather that attacking the user.

You seem to be unable to understand that no Flash on the iPad is not an Apple caused problem. It is a problem caused by Adobe failing to produce a version for iOS.

Allan