How do I get flash player on iPad.

Lytrob wrote:

The user should not have to figure out _WHY_ it does not work. it should just work. Read that guy Steve Jobs if you don't believe me...:)

Again, this does not mean that Apple was / is wrong. But denying that it is an inconvenience and a problem is just silly. Just admit that you know it is a problem, but decided that it was the right decision in the long term...defend on the merits rather that attacking the user.

So the simple fact that Adobe did not prodce a version of Flash for iOS is something that Apple should somehow now remedy?

And the fact that Apple worked directly with Adobe for at least two years and Adobe still could not do it is of no importance?

And the fact that Adobe has now discontinued Flash for all mobile devices is something that Apple needs to address by creating a non-licensed, non-existent product on iOS devices that even the developer could not do?

Really?

You don't seem to understand that it does not matter :) The user does not _care_ whose fault it is. They care that the product does not work with what has become a defacto web standard...even if Apple - and some folks on this thread wish that had not been so...

Again, I love my Ipad. It's pluses far outweigh this obvious problem. But blaming the user or Flash or developers is insulting the user...how dare all those customers want something that works for _them_???? :)

This makes me laugh, you all know the restrictions apple gave adobe ment it was impossible for Flash to work, and Apple knew this, if you tell a car manufacturer to make a car but it cant have any wheels they can't do it because you have set impossible restrictions.

You need to read Adobes side too instead of just reading Apples.

Then please explain to me why Adobe has decided to give up all support for Flash on all mobile platforms if Apple had set up such restrictive requiements was the reason for the failure to get Flash for iOS?

I see a much deeper underlying problem of flash just being to bloated for any mobile platfrom to handle.

Allan

Flash works fine on a blackberry play book I wonder how it can work on that but no anything Apple

I have asked before. Let Adobe show the working version they have/had ready for iOS on Facebook and we will all know you are right, won't we? Trouble is, I asked this several weeks ago and still have not heard of any Adobe response - unless ceasing development of mobile Flash is Adobe's way of showing how good it is on mobile devices!

And it is not an Adobe v Apple thing, Apple allows many Adobe programs on MacOS and iOS. Flash is the problem.

The bottom line is that for the past 5 years i-devices have not been able to view content that other devices can. Wether you care about that content, or think it is bloated or w/e, the fact remains that as an idevice owner we have been missing out on content for 5 years at least.

We are now finally at a point where the web may be changing it's landscape, but even then, it is still 2 more years minimum before other mobile devices also stop supporting Flash content. Adobe has agreed to support the next release of Android, and Blackberry OS, which is set to release someitmes next year, and untill the next OS which will probably be released sometime in late 2013 or maybe early 2014.

And even at this point companies like RIM who make Blackberry devices has already agreed to conitnue developing the plugin for their devices.

The real problem is untill all companies stop using Flash on the desktop, it will be a feature some user want on a mobile device, wether it's just for a hand full of websites, or more important reasons like RIA's. And that feature will be available on a device.

I personally have delt with the issue, and also found competeing devices with resolve the issue. It's all a matter of opinion but my HTC phone, and Andorid tablet both provide me with a much more robust enviroment, not just in content consumption but also with ports, expandable memory, and much more.

The truth is that as long as things like sd cards exist, mice, Flash content. There are going to be user who wnat the ability to use and view these things. At some point the user has to make a decision wehter or not to sacrifice needed features, or try a new avenue.

Because the idevice does not support something does not make it betetr, or make the needed feature obsolete. You have simply chosen to limit yourself to own a specific brand. I dont see a problem with owning a device that today allows for the widest amount of consumption, and then later changing back to an idevice when the world finlally bent to its demands.

5 years is a long time to go without. Another 2-3 is to much.

You seem to be replying to a load of points I never made in the first place AND not addressing my main point - whatever users wanted it was only Adobe who could provide it, they make the program. I suggested they provide evidence that the program you say that so many users wanted was actually available and usable via Facebook.

Do you not read? Adobe have already said the restrictions Apple gave them ment Flash was impossible iOS, How and why would they show you Flash working on iOS? Read back a few words!

You and every one defending on her know lack of Flash is a problem but will defend defend defend !

iPhone and iPad can't browse the web fully that is a problem! Like it or not

It may not be me who actually has the problem reading.

I nowhere defend the lack of Flash, nor say what I like or don't like, nor do I believe everything I read from Adobe or Apple. I am simply - and until I read your response I thought clearly - just suggesting that a major software company like Adobe could possibly find a way using known technology to demonstrate the working iOS version of Flash that you clearly know exists if they chose, then we would all be more able to see where the problem actually lies.

Just had to comment on the fact that Apple feels it appropriate and necessary to suppress a common, harmless, descriptive word when used in the proper context. It begins with r and ends with d and has e t a r d e in the middle. I find it incredulous that Apple suppresses words that have been arbitrarily designated un-PC (not politically correct) because a few thoughtless teenagers use the word in a derogatory manner. What's next...if teens decide to use the word 'table" derogatorily, as in "your so table" or "shes such a table", they'll start suppressing the word table? Geez...this PC baloney has really gotten out of control.

DavidK2010 wrote:

Do you not read? Adobe have already said the restrictions Apple gave them ment Flash was impossible iOS

So because Adobe posted it, it must be true?

You are reading a LOT more into the simple statement than was actually there.

And (had they been able to actually develop it) Adobe could have easily deployed it in-house, if for the single reason of proving Apple wrong about it being memory hog, crashing, etc.

And how do SkyFire and other apps display Flash content? Don't you thibnk that Adobe (the Flash developer) could have done a better job that those?

Though there's no support via the Safari browser or Adobe utility, third party browser "Photon Flash" is a workable option. I just downloaded it through the App Store (search terms like "flash browser" to find this type of product), and successfully played Flash content from both Facebook and American Greeting animated cards, which included interactive clicking within the card. The only drawback is that it doesn't run as quickly and smoothly as on my desktop iMac, but it is still good enough to see most content I desire. There may be other products and/or updates, but for now "Photon" seems best.

Well the good news is that Flash is slowly on it's way out and it is being replaced mostly by HTML5. Unfortunately flash won't be disappearing for a while. There are some apps out there that somewhat allow you to play flash. There are other alternatives, for example I will use Jump to RDP into my remote terminal and then I can run flash that way I can access flash. Not a great way to do it but it works.

Chris CA wrote:

DavidK2010 wrote:

Do you not read? Adobe have already said the restrictions Apple gave them ment Flash was impossible iOS

So because Adobe posted it, it must be true?

You are reading a LOT more into the simple statement than was actually there.

And (had they been able to actually develop it) Adobe could have easily deployed it in-house, if for the single reason of proving Apple wrong about it being memory hog, crashing, etc.

And how do SkyFire and other apps display Flash content? Don't you thibnk that Adobe (the Flash developer) could have done a better job that those?

You obviously know less than you think you do.

Apple said it was a memory hog and battery drainer, you believed it!

Adobe couldn't get Flash to work on iOS simply because of the restriction apple set, ie iOS under total lockdown

And the answer to you 2nd question:

Skyfire & Photon browser DO NOT show flash content! if you go onto a site that has flash, the page is converted on an external server to something which will play on iOS and then streamed back to the phone, thats why they are slow and most of the time usually dont work!

Check out Flash on a Blackberry PlayBook it works excellent and doesnt drain the battery, Thou Apples batterys do drain anyway with little usage, maybe that is Apples reason???