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Help. just got the weirdest alert from mozilla firefox which started a security scan on my computer

I was reading one of the threads on here and got this alert. it had to be false because it was scanning it said windows files so i closed the tab and it all seems okay. i was actually lookong at a link o f wzzz's avatar when it happened. (link was from a thread in this forum) do you think something got on my mac. it was so strange I'm practically shaking. should i download clamxv or something like that? I saw only that it said something about finding a virus and a trojan. but since it was "scanning" windows files I thought it must be about to tell me to download something. I downloaded nothing.


a freaked out Laverne's Mom


The only thing I have loaded is the update for Adobe Flash which I did from the Adobe site going to it from Firefox. Is this the right "community to be asking this question?


For whatever it is worth, I am in Safari now, but I decided to try it again in Firefox and got the same alert. I have the WOT add on which said the site was safe.

I am not trying it in Safari. But there is something weird about that. Hasn't happened with anything else.

iMac 21, Mac OS X (10.6.7), Safari 5.0.5 ipod touch

Posted on Apr 24, 2011 8:20 PM

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Posted on Apr 24, 2011 8:30 PM

Hi, laverne's mom -


Is it possible you had a window (tab) open to another site in the background? If so, that could have been a popup from that other site. Popups promoting useless (and sometimes dangerous) bogus software have been around for a few years. Almost invariably they are for Windows stuff; they may be claiming to be scanning files, but it's BS. All you need do is kill the window.


I got one the other day (when I was at some other site, can't remember which now), which auto-downloaded something when I clicked the closebox for the window. The 'something' was a PC .exe file; since such can't run in a Mac OS directly, it just sat in my download folder without doing anything until I discarded it.

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Apr 25, 2011 6:27 AM in response to WZZZ

Thank you WZZZ . I use WOT which I really like also, because it does alert me to websites I don't want to go to. I have pop-ups blocked. I do only accept third party cookies from websites I visit, but I might stop that also.

I will also check on No Script. Just wondering what your wife complains about with it. And I hope I never see another one of those scareware messages again.


Much much calmer this morning and even feeling a bit silly 😝 about my panic.


Lavern's Mom

Apr 25, 2011 6:59 AM in response to WZZZ

I don't use any other browser, including Safari, since there is nothing like NoScript available.


Actually, there is: Ghostery (also available for FF). Though it isn't as full-featured, this add-on blocks the same tracking scripts as NoScript does. Used with some of the other available Safari add-ons, it will definitely help.


(Like you, I pretty much only use Firefox. There's no question that it's the most robust browser available [just wish there was some way to view PDFs inline with FF4]), but there are ways to harden Safari for people who have minimal need/desire for features.)

Apr 25, 2011 7:36 AM in response to lavernes-mom

Well, since many sites require JavaScript (often in the form of third party external scripts) to function properly and NoScript is bascially a filter for JavaScript, there are times when a site or some part of a site isn't working because of this filtering. It then may involve a bit of trial and error to see which blocked, filtered out script is causing the site not to function. In most situations, just "allowing," which will whitelist the site, or "temporarily allowing," not permanently whitelisting, the site itself is enough. This simply means you are allowing the top level of the site to use JS. Below is what appears when you mouse hover over the NS icon, which you can see in the upper left corner. You can also see an icon to the left of that to cancel/revoke what you may have temporarily allowed.


Here, you can see apple.com (for Discussions) is "allowed" (permanently) but not a script from edgekey.net, which I have never needed to allow or unblock. The site works perfectly without it. But, if something wasn't working, I might have to temporarily allow edgekey (after checking it out by Shift-clicking on it, which will bring up a number of options for searching its reputation and safety.) Before allowing it, I might also google it to find out what its purpose is. It isn't necessary to do this very often. And, once you whitelist a site or a script you're sure of, you don't have to do it again.


After a period of getting used to it and knowing what to do when things aren't working, it mostly gets out of the way.


You can also read the "Quick Start for Beginners" from the NoScript forum. Also, go to the FAQs from a link there.


Tuttle: I have both Ghostery and NoScript, both of which block "web bugs," but Ghostery, apparently, blocks "web bugs" that NS doesn't. I think they may even have different defintions of web bugs. For Ghostery, they are pixel trackers. I think NoScript and Ghostery are really complimentary with some overlapping; I wouldn't want to have just Ghostery, alone. (This is based on a reply to a question I asked some time ago on the Ghostery forum, which I can't locate just now.

http://getsatisfaction.com/ghostery )


EDIT Actually, just found a comment from an email from their developer. But not exactly certain what he meant by Ghostery is primarily an "education" tool


Thirdly, NoScript's purpose is somewhat different from Ghostery: Ghostery is primarily an education tool that allows you to block based on a blacklist. NoScript is an all purpose JavaScript blocker. Differences go under the hood as well: for instance NoScript's "block web bugs" is not the same thing that our image/bug blocking is.






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Apr 25, 2011 8:45 AM in response to WZZZ

thank you. Since I am out of "helpful" responses, I "liked" your answer. Don't know what that does, but I appreciate and have taken your advice to stop the 3rd party cookies. Of course, at first I overdid it and just stopped cookies, but that doesn't work. Can't log in anywhere. But, I quickly realized what I had done. thanks again and I have bookmarked NoScript and will read up on it and then make my decision.


Laverne's Mom

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Apr 25, 2011 9:21 AM in response to lavernes-mom

Also, not a bad idea to have Firefox set to empty the cache and cookies on quit. Any login cookies can easily be restored the next time you sign in to a site. You don't need any of the others.


Read this too,


http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/09/technology/09aol.html?_r=1&pagewanted=print


And this on a different but somewhat related privacy topic.


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/14/technology/personaltech/14basics.html?scp=18&s q=internet+privacy&st=nyt


Go here and enter your own name. You may find this quite surprising.


http://www.spokeo.com/

Apr 25, 2011 9:22 AM in response to lavernes-mom

The "like" thing doesn't do much except for mimicing Facebook in that you will find "most liked" posts on the right of the page. Sort of a popularity contest in my humble opinion - there are several threads on that already as well. I've decided not to partake in it.


And, WZZZ is right on with clearing Firefox upon quit - I always do that.

Apr 25, 2011 9:28 AM in response to babowa

I am doing what you both suggested. I think I always knew that was the smart thing to do, but was just being lazy about it. I like to keep some of the history because I can't always remember where I found something I liked and I am already bookmark crazy, but saving cookies and caches doesn't really matter much I am sure. and I am not saving 3rd party cookies anymore either.

Help. just got the weirdest alert from mozilla firefox which started a security scan on my computer

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