can you install microsoft silverlight on ipad2?

SourApplesToGo wrote:

Philly_Phan wrote:

Many years ago, I had a car that I disliked intensely. I sold it. End of problem.

I just don't understand these people.

That's ok Philly, I really don't understand you or your logic at all. Frankly, you seem like a zealous fan boy and not someone who's really interested in providing accurate information. You make many assumptions "you're obviously new around here" (I can't have more than one ID?) that you can't validate and you also speculate "never will".

If you wanna help, then help, but waving the Apple flag isn't helping Apple users, it's only helping Apple.

Chris, Apple sales of iPads are good, but far from "sold out" -- got to Best Buy or Apple Store or retail outlet and ask if they have them in stock, you'll not be turned away, plenty to go around -- far from "selling them as fast as they make them". But again, that's not really relevant to the "potential" market -- people who would buy the iPad if it had Flash support.

This will help you.

And this will help you.

SourApplesToGo wrote:
But again, that's not really relevant to the "potential" market -- people who would buy the iPad if it had Flash support.

I'd bet that 99.9% of those who claim that lack of Flash is holding them back would find some other reason if it was available.

Most everyone else doesn't have a clue what Flash is so that's not what's holding them back. They simply don't want to purchase an iDevice for some other reason.

From your earlier post...

Pardon my being upset about this but this ongoing political battle of will has to end. The development of applications with Silverlight and Flash is something that is very deeply embedded throughout.

Where have you been?

The battle has ended.
Adobe (developers of Flash) have ended development of Flash for all mobile devices.

MS doesn't care about SL. Don't expect SL6.

I've only run across one or two websites that need it for anything.

And you response to Philly is funny in that you link to an article about "fanboys".

Didn't even glance at the link he posted, did you?

Chris,

Yes I did glance at it and rolled my eyes that he even posted such a useless link, and hence why I provided a counter link of equal uselessness -- but given your apparent intrenchment in everything Apple, I can see why you think I didn't look at Philly's link. Maybe you need go re-read them both again and you'll understand. 😉

People have a clue (again you provide more sweeping generalizations assuming everyone is stupid) when they go to a web site and it does NOT work ... only to find out it does NOT work because of an artifical block built into iOS (their device). Then people find out it's done for Apple's market leverage (to benefit Apple not the end user/consumer) and they get disgrunteled by it -- you feel they shouldn't complain about that situation ... seriously??

The only sad reality is that developers get stuck with a really crappy development language called HTML5 -- if you are really interested in technical details of why HTML5 is not as good as SL5 then have a read here:

SL5 vs. HTML5

I've coded using both and neither is perfect, but SL5 has features HTML5 does not, show stopper features like fully trusted access to almost all local resources (upon end user approval). But in addition to that SL is faster in almost every aspect ... hence why it was used by NetFlix originally.

iOS and HTML5 isn't the best option, it's Apple's prefered choice to leverage themselves at the cost of end user (consumers) convenience.

Thank you. It helped a lot. I laughed almost as much as I laugh at your posts.

Most normal persons that don't like a particular product simply don't buy that product. They don't whine that the manufacturer isn't doing things their way. They aren't concerned about the manufacturer's profits.

I'm outa here. I'm going to browse the other threads to live up to the reasons why I joined the forum. I'll let Sour play with himself.

SourApplesToGo wrote:

People have a clue (again you provide more sweeping generalizations assuming everyone is stupid) when they go to a web site and it does NOT work ... only to find out it does NOT work because of an artifical block built into iOS (their device).

I understand that Apple is a very large company but I don't understand how even they could block something that has never existed?

Why does Google (alå Android) prevent Stargates from operating correctly?

Don't waste electrons replying...

Instead of (uselessly) arguing, sell your iPad, get something you want that does what you want/expect and even have money left over to buy a coffee.

Chris,

Now you are actually making some sense. I'll be selling my iPad and buying Google's Nexus 7 16GB for $249 (Android 4.1 OS). It has all the features of an iPad for less than 1/2 the cost of an iPad and it also supports Flash.

This actually should have been your first response to the OP and other's who want Flash to work and who want "any" web site to work on their mobile "tablet" device. But because you and Philly are so blinded by Apple, you failed to point out some viable alternatives that cost less, don't compromise anything, and will be on sale very soon (July).

I don't know what "Stargates" is? Even a quick Goolge search and nothing comes up about Android problems with Stargates ... all I can find is a game called Stargates for Android 2.2.

Philly,

Could you be more childish? How old are you?

Neither of you have helped those wanting a solution, you've just tried to tell them that Flash is bad and Apple is good. And when someone comes along to really help and add reasons why Flash and SL are good things and should be supported, you resort to childish responses and silly speculation that Apple will never support Flash -- great way to help!!

You don't know what Apple will do in the future, neither do I ... but I can assure that Google's Nexus 7 features will make Apple re-think what they want to support. Bottom line is a $250 device will sell much more than a $500-$800 device when both devices do the same except one supports more features (the Nexus 7).

SourApplesToGo wrote:

I don't know what "Stargates" is?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_(device)

SourApplesToGo wrote:

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Neither of you have helped those wanting a solution, you've just tried to tell them that Flash is bad and Apple is good. And when someone comes along to really help and add reasons why Flash and SL are good things and should be supported, you resort to childish responses and silly speculation that Apple will never support Flash -- great way to help!!

snip .....

Until Microsoft write and release Silverlight for the iPad there is no solution, so use something other than an iPad.

Csound1,

Silverlight is a 3rd Party browser add-in, Apple block them in iOS ... it's not a matter of Microsoft writing anything (the work is done and runs on OSX).

Apple prevent Silverlight from running because it would circumvent Apple's lock down on iTunes applications -- developers would just write Silverlight applications because they wouldn't have to pay Apple. Microsoft have already released Silverlight that works fine on OSX. iOS is a trimmed down and modified version of OSX ... during that modification process Apple specifically excluded the ability for 3rd party add-ins like Silverlight and Flash to work. Microsoft can and have an iOS Silverlight version ready to roll, but that will not be released until Apple stop blocking 3rd party Add-ins. Either way, it's not a Microsoft issue, it's in Apple's control.

It has nothing to do with security as SL and Flash have to go thru the same security restrictions on OSX or iOS -- user must enter their password to accept and allow the silverlight application to install, no different than applications release thru the Apple iTunes store.

Agree, the solution is to use something other than iPad or iPhone ... such as the Nexus 7.

OSX and IOS are 2 different operating systems, Silverlight is available for OSX but not for IOS, if you think that OSX software runs on IOS you are wrong.

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It's not just Adobe that's altering its plans when it comes to browser plugins designed to play back rich web media — Microsoft's joining in too. New releases of Silverlight, Redmond's big competitor to Flash Player, are reportedly going to be abandoned after the launch of Silverlight 5, expected later this month. This information comes from multiple sources cited by the usually well-informed Mary Jo Foley. They don't know how long Microsoft will maintain support for Silverlight 5 or if there'll be any service packs, but it does seem like the company will be switching its operational focus to other areas and halting active development of Silverlight.

The move away from Silverlight isn't actually unexpected, as Microsoft had already indicated it considers HTML5 "the future" of the web and the introduction of WinRT in Windows 8 was already pushing in that direction, but it's still interesting to see both Flash and Silverlight being de-emphasized by their makers at about the same time. Neither of them is about to disappear, mind you, as Flash remains the primary way in which web video is consumed while Silverlight still has a role to play in Windows Phone app development. They do, however, look likely to play increasingly marginal roles in future software and web development. Some might call that a good thing."

OSX and iOS are Unix based ... iOS was derived from OSX ... it's not a "Brand New" written from the ground up operating system. A good example of how similar iOS and OSX (share the same core) is Garage Band or iOS and Garage Band for OSX ... it required very little effort to make Garage Band for iOS, small modifications -- why, because they both operate under the same core.

Agree, Microsoft do appear to be moving to HTML5 and they have stopped (maybe) future development of Silverlight ... but what does that have to do with anything in the the here and now? There is a huge web site base using Flash and Silverlight which is supported on most mobile OS's except iOS. And further more, iOS block SL and Flash long before Microsoft announced no more Silverlight version. Microsoft's moved to HTML5 is primarily driven because Apple was blocking the SL and giving the go ahead with HTML5, even though HTML5 is not as robust or feature rich as SL. Microsoft are trying to be available on ALL mobile platforms, while Apple clearly is NOT and doing their best to prevent others from working on their platform.

Either way, consumers will eventually get sick of Apple's attemtp at control removing compatibility and features that other's enjoy elsewhere.

Believe what you will, there is nno Silverlight (or Flash) for IOS. As it is so simple maybe you should do it.

SourApplesToGo wrote:

And further more, iOS block SL and Flash long before Microsoft announced no more Silverlight version.

Can't block what doesn't exist.

Microsoft's moved to HTML5 is primarily driven because Apple was blocking the SL

Really? That's what you're going with?

So even though MS has 75% of the market, they fold because of Apple's measly less than 10%?