Lost Password to iPhone Backup

Dustin Hansen wrote:

Um, you mean like every site I've ever used in my entire life?

None of the sites that I access store my password in plain text. Partly because if they did I closed my account with them. But none of my banks, credit cards, or even ordinary sites if the designers were even vaguely competent can tell me my password even if I ask. They may give me a way to reset my password once I prove who I am, usually by sending a link via email or text that goes to a one-time password setting page. At least one site I use won't even do that; if I forget my password my account is never again accessible; I would have to create a new one. And a lot of apps work that way.

A properly designed site should not save your password in plain text. It should encipher it using a strong hash algorithm, ideally SHA-256 or stronger. And it should add a "salt" to your password, such as your user number or something else unique, so two people using the same password will have the same hash value. As an example, from a site I designed, here is my hashed password: 40e8f46cc66d268e02dd832cd5606f746a40b993. While not impossible, it would be very difficult to determine my actual password from that.

When you enter your password the site should apply the same rule that was used to create the password and compare the result to what was stored. If they match, you entered the correct password.

SophieDutton wrote:

It is the password that you use to log into your account on your computer. I had this issue to until I typed in my computer password. I hope that this helps!

Well, that's what it is if that's what you typed the first time you made an encrypted backup. But I suggest you read other messages in the thread; there are dozens of different passwords that worked, because people entered dozens of different passwords when they made their first encrypted backup.

Perfect. It worked for me.

I had tried to type my password while connected via wi-fi but none of my usual passwords was accepted.

After connecting the iPhone to the Computer via USB, the password worked. In my case the password was my AppleID password. I don't remember having set this password up, but it worked anyway. My problem is solved. Thanks you, unclefungus!

Just chiming in like the 14,000 other people this has happened to. Like most of you I didn't remember doing this at all and thought it was some crazy Apple shenanigans. Quite frankly in the end, I just got lucky. Here was my adventure...

1. Backup old iPhone 6 to iTunes in preparation for new iPhone 7.

2. Get new iPhone (yay!) and try to restore from old backup.

3. Get an error regarding iOS versions...no biggie, update both phones to same iOS.

4. Restore from backup, easy right? Nope, get that lovely password error...poo.

5. Spend the next hour throwing every password ever at it (even tried my old MySpace one) - no dice.

6. Call Apple. Rep professionally holds back laughter telling me I'm screwed.

7. Start iCloud backup with old phone so I can restore via iCloud...says it will ONLY take 12 hours...lovely.

8. Save the 10GB iPhone backup folder to a hard drive and try to use a PC program to crack that turd.

9. Brute force cracker runs for hours...this is going to take weeks.

10. Since the other options are going to take weeks let's try throwing more passwords at iTunes hoping for a miracle.

11. Miracle happens, phone restored...whew!

Password ended up being my original password for my Apple ID...I think. I'm not sure honestly because I've had to change that password 3 or 4 times. I'm sure I chose encryption in the past even though I don't remember doing it. The reason being is that little window others have shared. The whole, "If you don't encrypt your backup you won't get all your crap restored because we're worried Putin is going to steal your iPhone data" screen. So like I said before, I just got lucky. Thankfully it doesn't appear there's a limit on how many times you can guess your password so keep trying, and good luck!

That brute force cracker is still running as we speak. I'm going to let it finish just to see how long it takes, lol!

Apple is not watching here. Encrypted backups work as Apple intended them to; a guaranteed secure way to protect your data. No one can decrypt your data; not law enforcement, not the thief who steals your computer, not your spouse, not your ex's lawyer. Unfortunately, the side effect is that you can't either if you don't remember the passcode that you created. The user's part of the process is to remember or record passcodes.

However, Apple does give you a way to make backups and restore them if you do forget your passcode, using iCloud backups, which are almost as secure as local encrypted backups and don't require you to remember your backup passcode. You do have to remember your iCloud password, however.

After spending hours frustrated with this trying every password - I found my solution. There is CLEARLY a bug here. I entered every password I could think of over and over while trying to uncheck the Encrypt iPhone backup box. With all hope nearly lost, I tried to give it go to CHANGE my password instead. I entered my "Old" password (one of many that I had tried while attempting to uncheck the Encrypt iPhone backup box) and then entered a new different password. It worked.

Anyone claiming that Apple does not have a bug here is WRONG. There is no reason that my password was incorrect when I attempted to uncheck Encrypt iPhone backup, but it was correct as my "Old" password when trying to Change Password.

I hope this may work for other people!

I had this same issue. I had tried EVERYTHING that I could find on internet, support groups, forums etc. but nothing worked. Even tried a brute force cracker.

Then I just gave up. Later I connected to another windows laptop I had and viola!!!! my usual password worked there. Also in my everyday laptop the entire memory was eaten up by a single component "Others" however in other laptop I could see all the components with some portion of "Others"

It gave me an idea and I unistalled and reinstalled iTunes in my regular laptop and I was extremely relieved and happy to see that there was no backup password and also the "Others" portion was minimal.

Try this method and let me know.

I have the same problem. The weird thing is that I installed iTune on my new Windows 10 laptop, and after plugging in iPhone, it didn't even ask for a password and then started backup with the encrypted setting.The only password I have ever entered into iTune is my apple ID and the corresponding password. But this password does not work.

I browsed some older post, someone was saying it might be a default 1234 or the lock screen password, but neither one worked. Any other ideas on how to reset the backup and disable encrypted setting?

The only weird thing is that you don't remember setting a backup password. You did. That is the only way the backup will be encrypted. The fact that you have enabled encrypted backup is "known" to the phone, so no matter what computer you back it up to the backup will always be encrypted with the password that you entered the first time you backed up after checking Encrypt Backup. If you have a company phone, or one with a company email address, the encryption requirement may have been forced on you by your administrator, but you still entered a password the first time you backed up.

Lawrence,

Thanks for your reply. But I know what I did.

I installed iTune last night, then started backup this morning. The only password ever required (or as a prompt) is my personal Apple ID and the password when I first started iTune. I started the backup just 1 hour ago before I post my message, so if I entered any password, I would remember :-) My computer is a personal computer, so there is no enforced company policy on it.

Anyway, I am trying to uninstall iTune now and clean up all related folders and re-install it to see what happens. It is fortunate that I am just trying the backup first before I switch phone, so nothing is really lost or unrecoverable yet.

Best,

HJ

Yes, that is right.

More follow-up on my tests:

- I uninstalled iTune and make sure the folder C:/program files/iTunes is completely gone. Also deleted AppData/Apple Computer/Roaming and AppData/Apple Comptuer/Local completely to make sure no old data is lingering around

- re-installed iTune.

- This time, I did not even bother to sign into iTunes store, so no apple ID or password entered. To prevent auto-backup, I prevented the auto-sync in the "Device" tab in the preferences.

- plugged in my phone, no auto backup is happening, and go to the device page, Alas, the "Enrypt iPhone Backup" box is ticked. When I try to un-check it, it is asking for a password that I really never entered.

- Tried my computer's log-in code, does not work; tried the lock screen password again, not working; tried apple ID password, not working; have a second apple ID, so tried its password as well not work; 1234/123456/000000 not working. Now I used up all the password that has anything to do with my iPhone or computer, I would want to try finger print, but unfortunately nowhere to enter it :-) stuck here now...

- I suspect it might be related to some setting on the phone given that I did not enter any password before plugging in phone, will look around ...

- tried to play with the check box for backup, the "This Computer" option is ticked by default. Latest Backup for this option is "Your iphone has never been backed up to this computer". Now if I tick "iCloud", the latest Backup is shown as "2015-10-13, .... to iCloud". I suspect this might be the problem. iTune might be using the password I used to backup to iCloud two years ago. I disabled iCloud backup since then because the iCloud space is really small. Now trying to remember, what iCloud password I had two years ago, could be different from the one I am using now, but only God can help me to remember it :-((((

It is definitely some bug. So my iPhone 6s died, that's another story. Got a new iPhone 7. Came home, went direct to a restore at menu, the setup menu. password fail. I know the password, have it saved in an encrypted app(pwsafe). Freak out, try a slew of passwords that I use, basically variations, then home screen lock password, apple account pin, apple account password. I give up. Setup iPhone as new. I noted the sw version was old, prompted for updating the iPhone. After update, in iTunes i choose a restore. My first and recorded password works! My itunes was at latest version, the new phone was older....

Anyway, not sure if that was it. Or not. There were a few disconnects/reconnects.

Oh and the prior evening, my phone screen and audio were dead, and I tried a restore-same orginal passwrd used worked there so I KNEW (2x based on working and my recording of said password in pwsafe) i had the correct password.

Super annoying, and I want the 30 minutes back and 30 minutes of freak out stress that was avoidable taken back as well.

Try the iPhone's passcode. I tried everything all of my ID passwords but it never came to me mind the us the iPhone's passcode. and it worked!!! if you know the password now just uncheck the encrypt backup option and you'll be done!

This is very weird because I honestly don't remember putting a password to lock my back up. I made a LONG list of possible passwords that could maybe work. NONE of them worked. I tried all of them again just in case. Nothing worked. Then I tried leaving my phone unlocked while entering the PWs. I tried all my passwords again. Oddly enough, I was able to decrypt the iPhone back up with the password I use to unlock my laptop!! What?! I know for a fact that I have NEVER used this password for any app, phone, email, nothing, just and only my laptop! Then I backed up my phone again without the encryption. I really hope this works for those who have this issue. Apple needs to fix this now!

Ok. I have had this problem too. I spent 2 hours sorting this. Firstly, go to the most recent backup WITHOUT encryption.

Then backup.

Download everything again.

Voila! It works!

I dont know if it will for you. But it did for me 😉