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2 things that make this 'redesign' complete rubish....

Although the whole approach Apple took in redesigning these forums is just ***-backwards, there are 2 things that are just mind-numbingly ridiculous. First, why isn't the search box linked to the forum you are browsing? After spending the mouseclicks to finally arrive at the forum I'm interested in, why does the search field still search the entire Communities? If I'm in the Motion forum and I type in something about an xml import, I really don't need to filter through search results from the itunes forum....

Secondly, when I 'refine the list' to get to the forum I actually want, why does the whole blue panel have to stay active. When I click to the second screen of the forum I'm in that same blue panel is there taking up 75% of the vertical space. I mean, did anyone at Apple really try to use this before if was released?

I've held off so long on posting anything about this. I just didn't want to be labeled as one of those people who just can't appreciate anything new, but this is just a horrendous step backwards. It really seems like some project manager needed something to justify his/her job so they took it upon themselves to sell the need to redesign this place. Really, really poor job in almost every aspect of what this has become.....

G5 dual 2GHz, Mac OS X (10.5.8)

Posted on Jun 5, 2011 4:42 PM

24 replies

b noir

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Jun 6, 2011 9:56 PM in response to buz

🙂 You're welcome, Buz.

I did a sort of guide thing to the Quick Navigation controls in the following thread. (It may take a while to load. I hadn't got the hang of saving images as pngs rather than bmps at that stage, so the screenshots are pretty huge in terms of file sizes.)

ASC quick navigation controls

rccharles

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Jun 7, 2011 11:24 AM in response to buz

Then there's the double scroll bar at the front page to ASC .... if you want a community low on the list, be prepared to scroll 2 scroll bars, one right and one left.

The screen design of this panel sets a new low in this inferior forum implementation.

The prior list of forums was complete, easy to navigate, and concise. We don't need change for changes sake. Re-implement this design or provided an advanced community list as turingtest2 has done.

A conventional list of the discussions.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3027001

What I'm saying is to make turingtest2 official by putting it on the forum site & have apple maintain it.

Robert

b noir

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Jun 7, 2011 2:29 PM in response to rccharles

The prior list of forums was complete, easy to navigate, and concise. We don't need change for changes sake. Re-implement this design or provided an advanced community list as turingtest2 has done.

That might be possible. The McAfee communities are using a version of Jive SBS (not sure if it's precisely the same version though), and they do that sort of thing:

https://community.mcafee.com/community/home

Jun 8, 2011 8:03 PM in response to chris catalano

Wow, just noticed one other thing that really demonstrates the failures of this redesign; on an iPad the list of communities on the homepage can't be scrolled! Thats right, you can't access anything past the Mac Mini forum unless you feel like typing the forum you're interested in into the search field. Really Apple, really?

etresoft

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Jun 9, 2011 10:13 AM in response to chris catalano

Try using two fingers

Jun 9, 2011 11:31 AM in response to etresoft

Nope, just scrolls the whole page....

etresoft wrote:

Try using two fingers

rccharles

Level 6

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Jun 9, 2011 11:34 AM in response to b noir

Here is Adobe's main forum list page:

http://forums.adobe.com/index.jspa

b noir

Level 9

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Jun 9, 2011 3:10 PM in response to rccharles

rccharles wrote:

Here is Adobe's main forum list page:

http://forums.adobe.com/index.jspa

I think Adobe is still using the older Jive Clearspace software. (Although I'm not 100 % sure of that.)

Closest thing we've got here at the moment is "Browse > Communities":

... which gets you through to:

(The other widgets on the Home pages don't get in the way of that view. Loads a bit quicker than the "Main" homepage or a "Your View" home page too.)

I primarily use that one for quickly re-following the Water Cooler and the Full Host Bar. (I'm one of the folks who keeps losing my follow-ship on them.) When I'm out patrolling non-followed places, it tends to be via "Browse > Discussions" rather than via individual communities.

Asatoran

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Jun 9, 2011 4:26 PM in response to chris catalano

chris catalano wrote:

Nope, just scrolls the whole page....

etresoft wrote:

Try using two fingers

Works for me in Safari on iPad1.

Be sure you don't "separate" your two fingers during the scroll. I found the iPad will interpret that as the "page scroll" or a zoom, and so will move the whole page. If that happens, you need to remove your fingers from the screen and try again. (IOW, if during the two finger scroll, your fingers start spreading apart, the iPad thinks you want to zoom. So be sure that your two fingers "stay together".)

2 things that make this 'redesign' complete rubish....