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Q: Diagnostic Mode, My iPod Classic doesn't have a FW Jack

Hi,

 

I'm experiancing a problem with my iPod Classic 6th Generation. I beleive (due to some research) that it may have some bad sectors because it repetitavely crashes iTunes during sync on random songs. I tried doing it in small chunks but it didn't seem to make a difference.

 

I tried Diagnostic Mode and I have gotten to the point where it's at the Accessorize Test. It says on the screen;

 

LCD=2

 

FW_DETECT=0

USB_DETECT=1

Please plug FW

 

I beleive FW means Fire Wire but I have no signs of a Fire Wire jack. I've tried everything and I'm stuck on this part.

 

Any help appreciated, I just don't want to know if you're having the same experiances as me

 

Thanks,

Zach

iPod classic, Mac OS X (10.5)

Posted on Jun 10, 2011 8:56 AM

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  • by turingtest2,

    turingtest2 turingtest2 Oct 13, 2012 3:05 PM in response to Green_M4n
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    Oct 13, 2012 3:05 PM in response to Green_M4n

    Have you tried a different cable, a different computer, or checked the dock port for fluff? It needs a restore to clear those pending sectors. Any time the iPod tries to read data from those it will stutter.

     

    tt2

  • by Green_M4n,

    Green_M4n Green_M4n Oct 13, 2012 5:09 PM in response to turingtest2
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    Oct 13, 2012 5:09 PM in response to turingtest2

    Thanks, I was able to restore it using my laptop. Thanks for the help.

  • by turingtest2,

    turingtest2 turingtest2 Oct 14, 2012 1:38 AM in response to Green_M4n
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    Oct 14, 2012 1:38 AM in response to Green_M4n

    You're welcome.

     

    tt2

  • by Heat Rash,

    Heat Rash Heat Rash Oct 14, 2012 11:41 AM in response to turingtest2
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    Oct 14, 2012 11:41 AM in response to turingtest2

    Retracts:                0  

    Reallocs:                48   

    Pending Sectors:    352

    Poweron hours:       96

    starts/stops:          22906

     

    This only started happening maybe 2 days ago. What do you think?

  • by turingtest2,

    turingtest2 turingtest2 Oct 14, 2012 12:08 PM in response to Heat Rash
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    Oct 14, 2012 12:08 PM in response to Heat Rash

    What started happening? What have you tried already?

     

    tt2

  • by Heat Rash,

    Heat Rash Heat Rash Oct 14, 2012 2:24 PM in response to turingtest2
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    Oct 14, 2012 2:24 PM in response to turingtest2

    When I try to play certain songs (mostly from certain albums), my ipod freezes for a while and then skips to the next song.  These songs have been on my ipod for a long time and they've worked before, and they work when I play them on itunes.  When I sync my ipod to my itunes and click on one of the "bad" songs from my ipod (not from my itunes library), my computer freezes. Furthermore, whenever I connect my ipod to my computer, it recommends that I try doing a "automatically fix file system errors" or "scan for and attempt recovery of bad sectors". I haven't done either of those two yet.

     

    Basically, all that I have tried is just resetting my ipod.  I would rather not do something that requires my computer being on for many hours because my computer is prone to freezing and shutting off at random times, and I don't want that to happen while it is formatting my ipod or whatever.

  • by turingtest2,

    turingtest2 turingtest2 Oct 14, 2012 3:01 PM in response to Heat Rash
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    Oct 14, 2012 3:01 PM in response to Heat Rash

    The freezing happens when the iPod needs to take say 10 or 20 goes to read the sector holding the data. At some point it will mark the sector as "pending" because it is hard to read, and eventually it will just give up and the iPod will skip to the next track or sometimes lock up completely.

     

    If your computer has a tendency to freeze it could be from a similar cause. If you don't have a backup of your iTunes library and other important data then see to that pronto.

     

    Every time Windows starts writing data out to a disk it sets a flag to say it is busy, then when the write process completes it clears the flag. If something goes wrong then next time the drive is connected Windows "knows" there might be inconsistent data which is why it flgas it up for checking. You should let it do so.

     

    tt2

  • by Grinchy72,

    Grinchy72 Grinchy72 Oct 22, 2012 10:46 AM in response to ZUsher
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    Oct 22, 2012 10:46 AM in response to ZUsher

    My 2 year old 160GB ipod classic ?6th generation? has suddenlty decided not to sync with itunes as it should. About 2 months ago it froze whilst syncing, i managed to reset it and resync it but not all datd transferred. Last week i tried resyncing it and have had increasingly less data going over each time. Each time the ipod was connected itunes was running really slow or would crash, this didnt happen when my iphone, ipod nano, or ipad were connected.

     

    I have reformatted the classic as both ?NTSC? and FAT. I have deleted and redownloaded itunes. I have restored the ipod countless times. Having just run the SMART test these are my stats....

     

    Retracts 148

    Reallocations 313

    Pending sectors 16

    Power on hours 2643

    Start/stops 113

    Temp 22

    Temp min 13

    Temp max 53

     

    I have just reformatted to FAT again and rerun the test, there are no differences in the stats. I am currently manually transferring the music in blocks of 50, so far it seems to be accepting it......althoug i could be here a while theres over 9000 songs to go on :-/

     

    From those stats are we looking at a failing HDD? IF so is it worth me buying a replacement HDD? are they easy enought to fit? I no longer have warranty so no worries there! Thanks

  • by samdav,

    samdav samdav Nov 20, 2012 12:46 AM in response to oz10k
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    Nov 20, 2012 12:46 AM in response to oz10k

    THIS THIS THIS THIS

     

    After everything I've been through to get my ipod working again, this process fixed my problem in 10 seconds flat.

    Ron I hope you realise how much you're helping people by posting what you did.

  • by Ceres Hal,

    Ceres Hal Ceres Hal Dec 25, 2012 10:05 AM in response to turingtest2
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    Dec 25, 2012 10:05 AM in response to turingtest2

    Hi tt2,

     

    I have got the following numbers after my Smart Data check:

     

    Retracts: 40

    Reallocs: 6232

    Pending Sectors: 3320

    PowerOn Hours: 939

    Start/Stops: 15529

    Temp: Currenct 36c

    Temp: Min. 1c

    Temp: Max. 50c

     

    What does this mean?

     

    Greetings,

     

    Ceres

  • by turingtest2,

    turingtest2 turingtest2 Dec 25, 2012 1:49 PM in response to Ceres Hal
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    Dec 25, 2012 1:49 PM in response to Ceres Hal

    Doesn't look promising.

     

    What happens when you try to restore it?

     

    tt2

  • by Ceres Hal,

    Ceres Hal Ceres Hal Dec 25, 2012 2:18 PM in response to turingtest2
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    Dec 25, 2012 2:18 PM in response to turingtest2

    Now I can't get it out of Disk Mode.

     

    But at first when I tried to restore it, iTunes gave me a error called '1429'.

     

    Ceres

  • by turingtest2,

    turingtest2 turingtest2 Dec 25, 2012 2:37 PM in response to Ceres Hal
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    Dec 25, 2012 2:37 PM in response to Ceres Hal

    A reset should get you out of disk mode. You could try a DFU restore. Like a normal one, but connect to the USB lead then press menu & select for 12 seconds. The device should reset and then the screen should go blank. I suspect the drive has some serious issues but I guess it is worth a try.

     

    tt2

  • by Ncilinorocks,

    Ncilinorocks Ncilinorocks Jan 3, 2013 4:59 PM in response to turingtest2
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    Jan 3, 2013 4:59 PM in response to turingtest2

    I was given and Ipod Classis and it wont seem to restore all the way.. and the my itunes will freeze when connected but work as soon as i dissconnect the ipod. I did the Diagnostics Mode and came up with this. I would assume since the max temp is so high its totally fried.

     

    Retracts: 13    

    Recallocs: 1656    

    Pending Sections: 8

    Poweron Hours: 135

    Start/Stop: 23012

    Temp: Current 35c

    Temp: Min 59c

    Temp: Max 245c

  • by CountBlacula,

    CountBlacula CountBlacula Feb 5, 2013 9:58 AM in response to turingtest2
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    Feb 5, 2013 9:58 AM in response to turingtest2

    I have an ipod classic 160gb which I've only had for about a year. I can only put about 350 songs on it and then itunes freezes and no more songs can be put on. I've restored the ipod a few times and rebuilt my library but I still have the same problem

     

    My numbers:

     

    Retracts: 11

    Reallocs: 6784

    Pending Sectors: 432

    Start/Stops: 35124

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