APPLE - GIVE US OUR MONEY BACK!!!!!

Have any of you lot actually bought and used this software? Or have you just listened to the miserable gets? Get real you lot. If you don't like the look of it, don't buy it or use it! Its that simple - jerks 👿

@ the black sun -- No, it's not the look of FCPX that is deterring professionals from purchasing FCPX.

It's the lack of professional support that FCPX failed to include that is making FCPX a non-profesional tool.

It seems that some of you in this thread are misinformed as to the impact that FCPX is having on the professional level -- which trickles down to even the 1-man shops/DSLR Renaissance Men and Women who seek to produce the most professional product.

I'll bypass all the arguments for the iMovie-esque UI, the lack of Multicam, and the gripes of Magnetic Timeline and get straight to the heart of why the professional community is so upset and why they are forced to ditch the FCP pipeline:

The main issue with FCPX in regards to the professional community, is the fact that FCPX is a closed sandbox.Granted, most FCPX-targeted users are 1-man shops and are fine operating in a closed sandbox. But this means that FCPX is preventing aspiring professionals to expand into the professional workflow and is effectively cutting FCPX users from the rest of the professional post-production workflow. FCPX does not allow for EDL/OMF/XML import or export -- that translates into:

I cannot take my edit and transfer it to a sound design studio

I cannot take my edit to a Visual FX house to do high-end compositing/VFX (or even Adobe After Effects and Motion <-- Apple's product),

I cannot take my edit to a Flame or Inferno or DaVinci for final color correction.

This means that FCPX makes us unable to produce a high-quality, professional product up to the standards of broadcast film/tv.

The reason why FCP7 users will have to jump ship is because without the ability to even export the edit to other software platforms and post-production specialists, there is no more future with the FCP pipeline. FCP7 is the end of the line. It is already outdated. And since Apple won't provide professionals with the tools they need to survive, professionals have no choice but go elsewhere.

For a more clear and clever illustration of the limitations of FCPX, please view Conan O'brien's take on FCPX:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRzLP0FJ82I

FCP -- RIP 2011

Why did you buy it? Try going to any TV network and doing a professional job with FCPX and we'll see who the jerk is! Apple has killed FCP as a professional product and you've just bought into it, who is the jerk now!

Paul Cuciti wrote:

Final Unprofessional Cut X = FUCX

HAHAHHAHAAHAHHAAHAH

Quoted for truth and probably the best acronym this year.

the black sun wrote:

Have any of you lot actually bought and used this software? Or have you just listened to the miserable gets? Get real you lot.

Good point. If you see hundreds of people sticking their finger into an electrical socket and get electrocuted by it, go ahead and try it out yourself. I mean pffft just because THEY got electrocuted by it doesn't mean it's awful. After all the electrical socket says "revolutionary" on it. So it must be good.

I was interested in getting FCP 7 from Videoguys (if it's still available) or getting FCPX but now I'm scared of wasting my money and time. I'm not sure about your reference to FCPX and it's not working with Motion. The package I was going to buy included Motion. What are the differences? FCP7 is outdated because of exporting you mentioned... EDL/OMF/XML and what else should I know? For now, I'm not doing what you're doing, high-end composting and such. I am interested in features like titling and special effects....videos for marketing consumer products, media marketing, commercials, weddings. If I can afford it, FCP7 but if I can get what I need from FCPX then I'll do that. I just want to make sure I'm leaving my options open for upgrading with the least kick to my budget.

All advice welcomed guys (and ladies).

Angela

Hiram, GA

Self-employed since 2000 (and still hanging in)

Of course everybody is complaining because they like to copy people complaining! No, I bought it , used it and then asked for my money back. Once the money is back in my account, I am deleting it...

If I were an iMovie type editor (or Randy Ublois, looking at his template home videos) then I would love this software. Seriously, if they were honest and made this an upgrade to iMovie then it would totally hit the spot. It is not however part of the path one would expect from FCP. While Autodesk Smoke and and Apple FCP lived in different spaces, now they live in different universes...

Most of us have wasted the f'ing money on this piece of crap software. Mac is becoming crap and should be ashamed of ripping us off like this. They don't think much of us profesional editors if this is what they give us. Unfortunately I bought it thinking it was like all other software. Photoshop, after effects etc never changed and downgraded their software when the relaese a new version. This is an insult to all pro editing software.

Fulla CraP X

This is a sad day and Apple will regret it. The only reason we buy their high powered machines is because FCP only works on a MAC.

Back to PC and Adobe

That last point is a really good one. While I've been a mac user for years, the video editing suites of the University where I teach used to be pc-centric (Pinnacle Liquid and Avid Composer). Then a few years ago we bought a ton of macs to join the macs we had in the design area. These macs and peripherals would never have been bought without final cut pro. FCP sold much more than FCP and now the ecosystem will go and it will affect them more than this pitiful software. Unless they decide to bring out Final Cut Pro Pro...

Listen to all of you... Jeez relax. Apple just released this FCPX program, there are going to be updates and patches. Do you honestly think Apple said, "Well we sold a bunch of iMacs and MBP's last quarter... Let's screw the pro's with this software" Get real you people are crazy. Warrickvdh you mentioned, "This is a sad day and Apple will regret it." What are you going to do son, google Steve Jobs' work email and send him an email that quite honestly he wont even read? Yes I said he won't read it because you sound childish and if you are a "PRO" you wouldn't conduct yourself this way. Youy must be a SONY Pictures "PRO" just venting bcuz you got hacked. Hahaha

Didn't know you could sell FCPX on Craigslist -- $100 for FCPX and Compressor 4?

http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/sys/2460482641.html

Cheaper than Appstore... altho if u search for FCPX -- it brings up a bunch of torrent download sites...

Do you guys think the hackable Appstore platform will affect Apple sales?

Where, how or who do I email to get a refund and return this software does anyone know?

1-800-MY-APPLE

That's a rather childish post, NightNinja. People are up in arms because the naming of the product indicates that it is an upgrade to the Final Cut Pro series of products and it won't even load a project from a previous version. It looks and feels like either a slap in the face to the user community that has built businesses using the software and Apple hardware that is the only hardware on which FCP runs; or it is a ham fisted marketing effort - which is about as likely as Steve Jobs levitating.

Steve Jobs' e-mail. In the past, he's been known to respond to this e-mail address... however i doubt he'll be as responsive these days...

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