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FCP X stabilization?

I have some obviously shaky footage that is handled well by FCP7 and the steadycam facility. The same footage analysed in FCPX doesn't seem to be stable at all. If the 'button' is active it just seems to zoom in a little and produce no greater stability. Am I missing something. I can't imagine the stabilization engine is worse in FCPX than 7.0.

Any ideas?


Mark.

dual 3.2Ghz quad core, Mac OS X (10.6.6)

Posted on Jun 22, 2011 2:17 PM

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Jun 26, 2011 2:59 PM in response to MarkWithers

I am feeling a bit dense. Perhaps the new FCPX interface is too new for me.


In FCPX, I can't find the option to change imported clips Field Dominance to Progressive.


The clips imported to FCPX were originally imported with iMovie.


I've selected a clip in both the "timeline" and Event Library, selected the Inspector, but can't find this setting. (Can't find mention of it in the online help system either - both from FCPX help and Apple Web Site.)


Guidance appreciated.

Jun 27, 2011 2:46 AM in response to AndrewSmith

Tested stabilizer a lot...

Look what i ve found

1. Files are AVCHD in MTS from Canon (17mbs\50i)

2. All files goes to CLIPWRAP (like i used to do for iMovie) - dont do this, it was a mistake (IMHO any wrapper must be tested with FCX first)

3. Import to FCX and then 😠 - NO stabilization at all, with any settings and fields and befor\after analysis etc.

4. Then I import right from camera - and stab is working. I`ve tested it with\without changing fields to progressive and it works anyway. But only if files are imported from camera or BDMV folder right to FCPX. Without transcoding, of coz.


My PROJECT settings is 1080p (25p) and files are 50i (looks like 25i in FCPX)

It does not matter if you analize and stabilize while impoting or after import, works anyway.


So, for me, it woks and only after import from camera or BDMV folder. If you have only files without right BDMV folder structure, then you can use free software from Panasonic (but works with any cam) - AVCCAM Restorer.

Jun 27, 2011 6:21 AM in response to AndrewSmith

AndrewSmith wrote:


Oh, almost forgot. There seems to be no way whatsover to make FCPX reanalyse the media once it's done the job. I had to delete the media totally and reimport it to be able to get it working.


If you look at your events in the Finder, there is a folder called "Analysis Files" and inside that is a folder called "Stabilization." Inside that folder is a file for each clip; if you delete those files, you should be able to reanalyze the media. Note, there are also separate folders for other Analysis results, which should function in the same way.

Jun 27, 2011 1:51 PM in response to AndrewSmith

I found the Field Dominance setting. Thanks.


I did some further brief testing and found I can get stabilization to work if I re-import my clips but disable all of the automated analysis and transcoding functions during import. (The clips were originally imported in iMovie from AVCHD files on memory card - now ProRes 1080 60i. I imported clips from the iMovie event directory into FCPX).


I drop the clips into the timeline, trim, add transitions, etc, then select all of the clips I want to stabilize in the timeline and select Stabilization in the Inspector. FCPX then analyzes and renders in the background. I did not change the Field Dominance setting prior to selecting Stabilization.


This is alot like the old way in FCP7, but its the only way that works for me at the moment. Takes a long time too.


So for now, the issue for my workflow is:


Transcode your media and analyze your media during import = Stabilization will not work, at least with previously imported ProRes files from iMovie.


I've experienced similar occasional stabilization failures in iMovie and FCP 7. I have not identified a common thread yet.


Maybe yakudza77 has found insight. See above.


Thanks for your help.


I hope this gets sorted soon.

Jul 31, 2011 10:11 AM in response to yakudza77

I have the same problem... I'm working with the latest 12-core with 32 GB RAM and the ATI Radeon HD 5870 1024 MB.


After an import with analyzing - stabilization doesn't work. After deleting the file(s) and importing them again without stabilization and analyzing the single clip on the timeline, it works...


First I thought FCPX isn't so bad, but meanwhile I have to reconsider this...


I hope Apple will fix all this soon. It's not funny to work with a program that is so unfinished!

Jul 31, 2011 3:58 PM in response to alexgrainger

alexgrainger wrote:

I now use the Lock and Load 3rd party plugin for stabalization, which does support interlaced footage correctly. Guess I wont be able to use this in FCPX either!

True,

there is no plans at all for CoreMelt's Lock and Load plugin for FCPX.

http://www.coremelt.com/reviews/news/93-coremelt-and-final-cut-pro-x.html

Shame, lock and load is a great plugin.

Sep 2, 2011 4:15 PM in response to Wolfgang Gaebler

Same problem here, and just wanted to thank everyong in this thread for the workarounds. Wolfgang's summary worked for me.


But, I found the quality of stabilization vastly inferior to that of iMovie '11. (I had been using Final Cut Express, which does not have a stabilization feature - so had to use iMovie to 'fix' clips in my prior workflow.)


I was testing with a handheld 1080i clip of a lion in Africa and the result from iMovie was stunningly smooth, as if held by a gyroscopic rig. Even at highest settings, FCPX is jumpy. Moreover, FCPX does not seem to detect the lion as the subject, as it is not made the true center of the stabilized frame as is done with iMovie.


EDIT: weird. After I typed the above, the background render of my clip finished... and the result IS as good as iMovie. I had just assumed that the live preview after analysis and stablization enabling would be the same - which is the case with iMovie. So, I guess the technology is here, and we have the workarounds, but would be great for Apple to get this working transparently.

Aug 19, 2016 12:59 AM in response to MarkWithers

FCPX seems to work fine if the footage is not interlaced. I tried changing the Field Dominance Override is set to Progressive, then everything seems to work seamlessly!^^


I'm using footage from a canon C100, and they import as Interlaced so...when you stabilizing them, gosh it's like film from an earthquake, it's just wildly shaking.


So I guess if you're using any interlaced footage, switching it to Progressive then stablizing can really calm that tempest. Have a go!!

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