Lion WiFi Connection Problem

Since installing Lion on both my IMac and MacBook Pro, the WiFi cycles (wifi icon on the menu bar) - looking for network - network on - looking for network. iMac with OS 10.6 doesn't have this problem so it's not the AirPort and there was no problem prior to installing Lion. The AirPort Utility log shows lots of connection activity but I don't know if that means anything. The network troubleshooter says theres no problem but it's causing big problems with connection speed and applications that need a constant connection are giving me network errors constantly. Please give me some advise....

Posted on Jul 20, 2011 5:19 PM

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Aug 17, 2011 11:15 PM in response to AkosL

You could post this type of "hate" mail directly to Apple at phil@me.com, steve@me.com or robin@me.com.

You won't get an answer but it will make you feel better.

After you have calmed down and feel more rational, try a disk partitiion/reformat and either go back to Snow Leopard and wait or install a clean version of Lion and then run the 10.7.1 update—no guarantees but the latter fixed all my problems on a MacBook 4,1 and an iMac 6,1.

Aug 18, 2011 1:35 AM in response to renski

So the update didnt fix my wifi issue which is unique to my lion MBP on many different locations. Before the update, i had wifi bars, could see the network, but got conection time out. After the update i cant pick up any wifi signal at all.


I called apple.


He said:


Switch off, then switch on holding Shift, cont, alt

Then again holding Cmd, Alt, r, p until it beeps twice


Nothing


Then he said, switch off and hold down Cmd r, to get to some osx boot page, and try wifi there.


Still nothing.


So he then told me that its a hardware issue that needs replacing, that coincidently went wrong when i installed lion, and that i need to go to an apple store to get my wifi replaced. (£200 flight away)


Seriously? I mean ****ing seriously? Lion is yet another release disaster from apple. Its got more bugs in it than the pre release version of ios5 which is bad.


How can a company that has more cash reserves than the US government, push something out as badly tested as this, and then put an update out that doesnt fix anything. Utterly fed up.


Going back to snow leopard.....but they wont give me a refund on Lion!!


Thanks apple. c***s

Aug 18, 2011 2:53 AM in response to renski

And what precisely is that fix? do you have a link to it?


The problem with the intitial release from apple and Lion and the whole app store download scene, was that it offered NO clear way for customers to DO A CLEAN INSTALL, erasing the hard drive and installing the OS. Of course this forces the customer to reinstall EVERYTHING they had on the system, software, browsers, bookmarks, files all of it.


There is NO SUCH THING as an update of an OS, especially a unix based OS, from one to the other. A clean install is ABSOLUTELY MANDATORY to avoid a list of conflict issues.


The new os for $69 OFFERS a clean install option. The update for $29 did not. HOWEVER IT IS POSSIBLE TO CREATE AN INSTALL FLASH DRIVE OR DVD IF YOU PURCHASED LION FOR $29. Of course you would need to download it again and follow these instructions that would allow the clean install, something the latest update is really designed for.


http://osxdaily.com/2011/07/08/make-a-bootable-mac-os-x-10-7-lion-installer-from -a-usb-flash-drive/


Apple will NEVER admit an update from os to os is flawed, but the reality is this easy or lazy way to move to a new os is doomed to conflict issues.


Before you toss your Macs out a window like a friend of mine did in NY, or sell it for a windows disaster pc, try the clean install approach to moving to a new operating system.


NOTE The flash drive version of Lion does not come with the built in restore/reinstall feature. There is a reason for that. It is flawed and unecessary baggage in an os the size of Lion.


CLEAN INSTALL AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS. It is not perfect, but it is I am finding far better than simply doing an update from snow leopard to lion with all your apps and files in place.


That said, APPLE, FIX THIS MESS ALREADY. We want computers when we buy them NOT IPADPUTERS. If we wanted iPads or iPhones we would simply buy them. We use computers for school, work, our livelihoods, and we need them to work, out of the box, with little to no problems. This WIFI issue IS the single most hard to take blemish against your company and the direction you seem to be moving with your computers and operating systems. WAKE UP and keep customers. DON'T and lose many customers. Those in here who say they will rush out to buy a notebook for $299 and it will work are right, and if they are at all intersted, they can partition the drive and install Linux on them, and they will simply work. That is something Apple was always noted for. It is not the case with Lion.

Aug 18, 2011 9:24 AM in response to lrogersinlv

Dear all,


As one of the many who is also suffering from this issue, I have been following this discussion since approx page 25, and would offer the following comments:


-like others, I note that 10.7.1 has unfortunately not fixed the problem


-like others, I find this frustrating


-unlike too many others on here, I do my venting elsewhere (a very, very patient spouse helps, or else try screaming out the window a la Network for those of you who remember that film...), since I don't think my venting on here will help anyone of you...


-aiming to be a tad more constructive, at my end, I can attest to trying various fixes suggested on here and elsewhere, and have found only one that truly works: change your WLAN router's broadcast setting from "auto channel selection" to a fixed channel that you should choose from those that are supported by the wifi cards in all the Macs you're connecting to that net (look under "About this Mac>>More Info>>System report>>WiFi>>Interfaces>>Supported Channels on each Mac). In my case, I picked channel 36, and I have had stable wifi for nearly 2 weeks now.


Don't know if it'll help all of you but it's my 2 cents worth...


Good luck to all, and hey, let's try to help each other out here instead of just venting (which also has very limited entertainment value, to be honest...!


PS Have no spouse, and worried about neighbors getting upset? tNo worries: try invesdting in a good punching bag... and yes, you can even put an Apple logo, Steve's face, etc.. on it... Enjoy!

Aug 18, 2011 2:11 PM in response to lrogersinlv

All is a bit controversal... in my case... when I first got my MBA couple days ago I had no problems with wi-fi on a Asus router. I went home and on a older TP-Link wireless router I could not connect to my home wi-fi network. All other devices(3 windows machines, iPhone and android cellphones) have no problem connecting. Firstly I had to clear Pram and NVram to even get a list of networks, as at first I could not see any around me... and trust me.. there is a ton around where I sit now 😟.


After the setup I tried anything to get on a network - even a Personal Hotspot through my iPhone, but nothing helped, still Connection timeout!


Things I checked:

On Router: reseting router, changing channel, changing network mode to B from B,G

On MBA: setting manual IP, DHCP adress, removing all favourite networks, deleting network config files in /Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/ , Rebooting, reseting SMC, PRAM and NVRAM

Aug 19, 2011 12:51 AM in response to Huli22

Update: Still having problems getting a network list... And in the network configuration I have, there are only three options for the TCP-IP for the IPv6: Automatically, Manually and Link-local only. No "off" option in there as some forum sites advised to turn this option off... can I do this manually by editing a config file?

Aug 19, 2011 1:07 AM in response to Huli22

Had assumed that since Apple clearly knows they really screwed up WiFi with Lion that at least 10.7.1 would have fixed it. But no it hasn't. It's still completely useless and unusable. iPhone and iPad connect perfectly to the same access point but the MBA will work for a while then suddenly decide it can't connect. Removing the AP from the network list and re-entering the password doesn't work. Rebooting the MBA doesn't work. The only way to fix it is to reboot the base station.


But before anyone says "it's the base station then stupid" - how come it works perfectly with the iPad and the iPhone then, but not the MBA with Lion - 10.7.0 or 10.7.1?


Rubbish this. One could expect some bugs in 10.7.0 but for Apple not to have sorted this properly in 10.7.1 is absolutely unforgivable.

Aug 19, 2011 2:18 AM in response to lrogersinlv

This is really dissapointing of Apple. I own an iPhone and MacBook Pro that both connect without issues to my home wi-fi. My new Mac Mini on the other hand (that came pre-installed with Lion) has failed to work with wi-fi, although seems relatively stable for the first few days. Since then I've been unable to connect, having extremely poor speeds etc.


I was hoping 10.7.1 was fix it but no luck, I can now connect every time but the speed is ridiculously slow to the point of being unusable. I'm going to look into how I can get a refund or be given snow leopard. Can't believe a company like Apple would get something as fundamental as wi-fi wrong.

Aug 19, 2011 2:23 AM in response to lrogersinlv

Frankly I find it hard to believe that Apple knowing how many people are having trouble with Lion has not worked harder to find a fix that works with everyone. Not just different patches for different people. No one had problems with Snow Lion ,maybe the truth is that Lion was just not ready to be put out for use yet,and maybe because so many people are having several different problems with it, it may never be ready.It has features that make it more like an I Pad but If I want an I Pad I'll buy one, I just want my mac pro to function flawlessly and a machine I can count on, and I don't want to find fixes daily to keep it connected to Wi fi.I think all Apple users deserve nothing less, for the loyalty and the price point of this product!

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