Lion WiFi Connection Problem

Since installing Lion on both my IMac and MacBook Pro, the WiFi cycles (wifi icon on the menu bar) - looking for network - network on - looking for network. iMac with OS 10.6 doesn't have this problem so it's not the AirPort and there was no problem prior to installing Lion. The AirPort Utility log shows lots of connection activity but I don't know if that means anything. The network troubleshooter says theres no problem but it's causing big problems with connection speed and applications that need a constant connection are giving me network errors constantly. Please give me some advise....

Posted on Jul 20, 2011 5:19 PM

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Aug 24, 2011 7:12 PM in response to lrogersinlv

I have three iMac's running Lion OS and two are functioning normally the third has no internet connectivity at all on the mac side however, the VM (Windows XP) is running like normal! Apple have suggested a total restore of the system - i'm not sure that this will resolve anything - must be a bug that needs urgent attention! the down time has been two weeks!

Aug 25, 2011 7:02 AM in response to lrogersinlv

The 10.7.1 update has definitely not fixed my WiFi connection issue either. In fact I think it's made it worse. Before I was at least able to get a good 8 hours of connectivity after resetting my router. Now it drops within an hour.


The other extremely frustrating part is that the Lion issue is affecting my husbands PC laptop as well and my iphone. If my iMac isn't connected then nothing is. I have tried every single solution people have posted without resolution.


I'm not sure who to get on the phone with first, Apple or Verizon because I think we are all aware of the fact that this problem won't be fixed until the software is fixed. I've been plagued with intermittent connectivity for a month now!

Aug 25, 2011 11:28 AM in response to lrogersinlv

I am also having wifi connection issues ever since upgrading to Lion. Update to 10.7.1 didn't fix anything.

I'm using a 2010 iMac 27''


Wifi keeps dropping every few minutes. Apple care wasn't able to fix this problem. What helps me through right now is opening up TERMINAL and pinging any internet adress. So as long as terminal is running and pinging (for example) google.com every few seconds, Wifi is stable. If terminal isn't running, wifi will disconnect every now and then.


Also... there is another problem that hasn't been mentioned here yet. Ever since upgrading to Lion I am unable to access my router from this iMac. I am using a FritzBox... and its router adress is http://fritz.box

When I type this in, my browser (any browser!) is looking this address up on the internet.

Trying to access fritz.box from any other Computer here at home works just fine.


:-/


NOT HAPPY, Apple!

Aug 26, 2011 12:43 AM in response to Nogueira

Did you have a post you made yesterday taken down by Apple? I won't say what it was about in case this suffers the same fate. I had made a similar point earlier and my post was removed because it was deemed to be:


Speculation or Rumors

Off-topic or non-technical posts


I think it was more to do with commercial self-protection but it is interesting because there is a great deal of speculation and off-topic comment in threads like these that doesn't get taken down.


The reassuring thing is that Apple clearly are reading all this and so any attempt to See No Evil, Hear No Evil about this problem is clearly disingenuous. The disappointing thing is that it feels like Big Brother and that a firm that was once the champion of the outsider has now become like pretty much any other big self-interested corporation.


BTW, Mr Apple, in case you consider this too is off-topic, it is relevant because it all has a bearing on whether the Community can believe that you have the will and capability of resolving the basic problem that Lion OSX is seriously flawed. Refusing to acknowledge it (if only by continued silence) doesn't mean there is not a big problem here. 43 pages of posts on this one thread (and there are several similar other ones on this site alone) surely testifies to that.

Aug 26, 2011 8:43 AM in response to lrogersinlv

I completely agree with "simon57", and I would like to add this: For sure, Apple is aware of the wifi problem, and they could release a note that they are aware of the problem. Censorship will not correct the wifi problem, because there is a massive complaint about this problem all over the internet and social networks.


I have bought a new MacBook Pro and the OS X Lion about two weeks ago, and I can not use it because the wifi sometimes works and sometimes does not work. I am writing this post usin a PC Windows 7 notebook, because today the wifi of the MacBook Pro is not working.


And please Apple, don't say that I have to configure the router or any other apparatus because everything in my house that uses wifi is working, even the iPhone 4.

Aug 26, 2011 10:44 AM in response to lrogersinlv

You may add me to the list of disgruntled customers experiencing wireless internet connection issues since I "downgraded" to Mac OS X Lion. I first reported the problem to Apple Care on August 1st. Since then, Apple have released an OS update 10.7.1, but the update doesn't fix the problem. It actually makes it worse!


I'm amazed that a final OS release can be so disappointingly botched up! All those who purchased Mac OS X Lion should be refunded for the time lost namely trying to recover an internet connection.


I've also enquired about a suspicious process I noticed in the kernel logs called "echelon v1.2.5". I didn't get any answers from Apple Care. I'm guessing this is some sort of Apple made Big Brother spyware. But I have to admit that until I get an answer from Apple, it's mere speculation!

Aug 26, 2011 12:01 PM in response to simon57

I don't think so, for 3 reasons:


1) if it had to do with a twitter client, then I think the process would appear in software logs and not kernel logs


2) I've never installed echelon on my Mac!


3) the version now reported in the kernel logs is "echelon v1.2.5", whilst the latest version of the twitter client echelon is 1.0.1


I really think Apple ought to give us an answer, but they're being suspiciously secretive about it!.. and the past has shown that you cannot trust corporations.

Aug 27, 2011 2:48 AM in response to lrogersinlv

Since the update 10.7.1 it has improved my wifi connection, but it has not totally fixed it, I am finding that using Safari I am more likely to get Page not found errors when either refreshing a page or leaving it on a page, coming back 10mins late then doing refresh or moving to a major search engine (Yahoo etc).

Under Firefox this doesn't have and I never get that error, it seems more stable, I know most people would say 'then use firefox' - which is an acceptable work around, but point is, why is my safari doing this and its never done it before.

The other problem I have which is related to Lion, is my problem with Outlook 2011 on Lion. When quitting outlook after use, 90% of the time it quits fine, the other 10% error reporting kicks in and reports an thread error or crash.

I have raise this ticket in the correct forums on Microsoft 2011 site, the suggestions to rebuild my profile, export all my mail, new profile and reimport it, have not solved the problem. - I realise this is the apple forum and thread for the Lion and wi-fi, but the issue stems from the fact that Lion is causing this problem and there have been no updates for either Microsoft or Apple about these issues. I agree it would be great if they said 'We admit there is a problem and are working on it'.

I wonder what the percentage is of people experiencing wifi problems out of all Mac users?

Aug 27, 2011 9:10 AM in response to lrogersinlv

I have had this sakes issue with connecting to the Internet since installing Lion. It seems to be more of an issue on my MacBook Pro and IMac which are 2-2.5 years old. The iPad and iPhone 4 seem to be ok. My sons newer MacBook Pro is better but not perfect. I have called cox and they see the connection and the speed of the connection to the house is ok. I reset the Time Machine router and the Airport Express's (3) and all the computers and still there is a problem. My finial conclusion is the new upgrade to Lion is the problem. Apple, so far doesn't seem to recognize this issue. My frustration level is continuing to build each day there isn't a reasonable solution. If anyone has any additional information it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Lemdog.

Aug 27, 2011 10:22 AM in response to lrogersinlv

I've had this problem as well, on my 27 iMac with lion preinstalled. Was on the phone yesterday with apple care (3 different calls) for about two hours, we did the whole gambit of trouble shooting solutions, PRAM reset, deleted System configs, changed DNS, cycle router and modem all with no effect. So, I think were going to have to wait for a software update. I've resorted to using the ethernet port hardline with no problems for the last 24 hours or so.

Aug 27, 2011 10:23 AM in response to lrogersinlv

I have not had problems at home with my netgear router there with a 2008/2009 MBP. My wifes original MBA had problems that seemed to be fixed by the update. However, when I went to visit my parents, my MBP would not connect to their netgear router, WNR854T. I have the latest firmware on both. I rebooted the MBP and then it connected. So, it seems to me that there is a bug related to switching between wireless networks, and in particular, I was not getting prompted for a password at my parents house when I deleted the network and then tried to connect to it again. So, it's almost as if the credential management is hosed and that is keeping the right password negociations from happening.

Aug 27, 2011 12:02 PM in response to lrogersinlv

This post is directed to all those people saying Lion ***** and those who think Lion being full of bugs is related to... something mentioned earlier in posts which are now deleted. It's directed to those people saying Snow Leopard was stable and Lion is buggy, because of that aforementioned reason.


You're calling Lion a buggy operating system because of the wifi dropping, but is this really a problem of Lion? No, it's a problem of Mac OS X in general. Maybe you never experienced these problems in Snow Leopard, but search the internet and this forum for "snow leopard airport dropping" of something like that. Snow Leopard had the same problem. When people did an upgrade from Leopard to Snow Leopard they had the same problems. I've had the same problem with Snow Leopard and I've tried to resolve this problem for about 20 months!


I've tried different settings in my access point and on my MacBook and with every release of Mac OS X 10.6.x I hoped Apple would have resolved this problem. Now, after 20 months it finally looks like it's been resolved. The day Mac OS X 10.6.8 came out I did the following:


Software Update said Mac OS X 10.6.8 was ready to install, so I clicked on "Install update". When the update was downloaded, it asked me if I wanted to restart. I didn't immediately click on "Restart", but I first disconnected from my wireless network.


I went into System Preferences and deleted al network preferences (all networks I've ever connected to, etc). I also removed all devices (Airport, Ethernet and Firewire) by clicking on the minus symbol.


I opened Key Chain and deleted all wireless passwords. I opened Finder and deleted al plist files related to Airport in my library.


I've got a seperate modem, router and access point and they are plugged into a power strip with a power button. I switched the power button, so all three devices lost their power.


Then I went back to my MacBook and clicked on "Restart" and it started installing the update.


After the update was installed and the MacBook was restarted, I switched the power on the power strip back on and waited for all devices to come back online.


Then I went into System Preferences on my MacBook and added Airport again by clicking on the plus symbol and selecting Airport. I didn't add the others, because I don't use them, so Airport is the device showing up in the list of available network devices.


Then I connected to my network again and after about a month it still looks like the problem is resolved.

Aug 27, 2011 1:46 PM in response to lrogersinlv

I have been having the whole mess of wifi issues on my 27" iMac with Lion. This includes wifi dropouts, no wifi on wake from sleep, etc. Last weekend I did a clean install and left the computer at 10.7.0, which really seemed to help. All week things behaved pretty normally, although sometimes it took 10-15 seconds after sleep to recognize my wireless network (original Time Capsule, BTW).


However, this morning things got crazy. The iMac couldn't hold a connection for more than about a few minutes--extremely annoying and made the computer darn near unusable. I tried installing 10.7.1, but that made things worse--the dropouts were basically once a minute!


I finally got fed up and called Apple support; the "party line" is that Lion is more sensitive to wireless interference, and I must have too many other wifi networks in the vicinity sharing the same channel (there are a handful). The rep's suggestion was to try different channels until the dropouts stop. He may be right, and as I type this my network has been stable for about the last 15 minutes, which indicates some sort of interference, but the fact remains that with Snow Leopard I never had a single issue with wifi.


I work for a test and measurement company; I may drag home a spectrum analyzer and see for myself what the interference may look like...


Looks like changing channels or waiting for a driver update from Apple are the only possible solutions to this issue.

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