I upgraded to Lion, and I cannot find the "bounce" functionality in Apple's Main application. I regularly use this to reduce future occurences of SPAM. Is it possible it has removed from the application?
Yes the bounce is gone...
And then again there are probably as many that don't. Would help more people if it was posted in the iOS forums. Then again it isn't an issue for me at all as Bounce has not been effective for some time.
deggie wrote:
Then again it isn't an issue for me at all as Bounce has not been effective for some time.
Are you saying that bounce doesn't work? Ever?
If you send an email to a friend, and it bounces back, then it was effective. Whether the friend bounced it on purpose, or you got the address wrong, and it reached someone who is sick and tired of getting your mistyped email address... Bounce to Sender is effective to convey that you had better get that email address right, or stop sending to that recipient.
Some people don't read those polite emails that say "I'm not him, please stop sending stuff to me". All they understand is when their email doesn't reach their recipient.
If I send an email to a "friend" or relative and they don't want to hear from me they can just tell me that and I'll quit bothering them. It isn't hard for me to verify that I sent it to the correct address. Same goes for relatives. And the same goes if they are emailing me. As far as spam, etc., bounce had become useless.
Oh my goodness! I'm so sorry! I didn't realize that you were only twelve years old. You might be forgiven for totally missing the point. If those people are complete strangers to you, you would have no other way of "just telling them to quit".
Sorry, but you are off on the age by about 49 years. I think you don't get the point, if they are complete strangers how did they get your email? If they are spammers they don't care if they get a bounce or not, their system doesn't even record that fact. They just scattershoot them everywhere. I did not miss the point at all, you were the one who brought up sending it to a friend.
sawatzky wrote:
Oh my goodness! I'm so sorry! I didn't realize that you were only twelve years old. You might be forgiven for totally missing the point. If those people are complete strangers to you, you would have no other way of "just telling them to quit".
By the time they have your address, send out a couple of million emails from a bogus addresses, and immediately close the hotmail (or whatever accounts) there is nowhere to bounce it back to anyway, except to yourself as undeliverable mail, and if it does go through you have just announced 'Hi, yes this email is active - tell your friends.'
Good Luck
Pete
It is not hard for people to guess my email address. One of my email addresses is <my last name @ the largest ISP in Canada>. Therefore it gets accidentally used often, when people are guessing at their contacts email address. One persons email address is <my last name + a "j" at the end @ thiscountrieslargestISP>, so people frequently don't see the "j" when transcribing the email address. I have got some fairly important emails by mistake, including job offers, speaking engagements, sports practises for their kids, etc.
My other email address that gets accidentally spammed is <a fairly desireable word @ thiscountriesbiggestISP>. IF someone says "my email address is "word@thiscountriesbiggestISP", they forget to say "Oh and I spell "word" WURD, because the correct spelling was taken. There again, I don't have to give out my email address for well intentioned people to use it. I politely ask to be taken off of their lists, and out of their address books. Then I start to threaten to cancel appointments on them if they don't stop using the wrong spelling. Eventually "Bounce to sender" is the only language they will understand, the only way they know for certain that their emails are not reaching their intended recipient.
Anyways, "Bounce to sender" is not always ineffective. There are times when it is needed. The point that you missed was that if you send an email to someone... anyone... and it bounces back to you, your first reaction is to double-check that the email address you chose was correct.
petermac87 wrote:
By the time they have your address, send out a couple of million emails from a bogus addresses, and immediately close the hotmail (or whatever accounts) there is nowhere to bounce it back to anyway, except to yourself as undeliverable mail, and if it does go through you have just announced 'Hi, yes this email is active - tell your friends.'
Good Luck
Pete
I'm not talking about spammers and spam. I am well aquainted with spammers techniques. I am an Analyst/Programmer by trade. I am arguing the necessitity for the bounce function in certain circumstances.
If you make up an email address and it isn't valid, it bounces back to you. You consider that valid. Therefore "bounce to sender" itself is valid.
If you get an email from a well intentioned person, who forgot their friends address so they made one up... yours... and you want to send a message that it is not valid, for THEM to use... "Bounce to sender" would send that message.
As I've explained before, it would be polite for you to simply reply that you are not the person they think they're emailing, but some people don't get the hint... and then when your email address lands in a distribution group, like a sports team mailer... fuhgettaboutit. This isn't spam. It's mistaken identity.
Website er world you live in seems to allow a great amount of time. I rarely get any spam coming through as Mail has learnt my habits and marks them as junk. I get a great deal less ever since I gave away using that cute little feature Bounce when it first came out. Now Apple, as well as MS Outlook have dropped it because it is now defeating its original purpose.
And who would bounce their friends?
Your posts are becoming silly rants. There a third party hack around if you can't live without it.
Pete
I can tell you didn't read the silly little rant. I'm not talking about spam, and I'm not bouncing friends.
You can google third party hacks if yo want to become a spammer yourself. Just don't bounce me with the stupid outdated little thing.
Good luck and good ridence to Bounce
Pete
Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.
Subject: Bounce
Sent: 3/25/2012 12:08 AM
The following recipient(s) could not be reached:
'deggie@asc.com on 3/24/2012 11:52 PM
550 5.7.1 ... Relaying denied. Proper authentication required.
I hope that's. Of a real email address or you have just opened up a whole new world of spam to web spiders you fool. Why do you think people are consists fly told/warned not to post email addresses here? For your sake I hope the moderators remove it. If you are so reckless with your details then no wonder you get bombarded with spam.
Ridiculous
Pete
It was a joke, as you've seen in this thread I agree with you.
Woops, sorry Deggie, my bad. Didn't realize I was replying to you.
Bounce
lol, so used to the stupid cprnts I read about Bounce, I forgot to look who posted!! I tried emailing you but it bounced back!! Lol
Cheers mate
Pete
Apple Mail removed bounce functionality?
