The verical scoll bar arrows are no longer there on OS X 10.7.
Any way in System prefs or Safari prefs to get them back?
Imac 20, Mac OS X (10.6.6), 10.7 installed
So, I set the scroll bars to always. In Facebook however, they are not working. They are stuck.
Can't help there, sorry. I don't use Facebook. Check Facebook settings, wherever they are on that site.
Pete
It's apples fault. I recomend using Firefox or Opera.
I didn't know Apple played a part in the development of facesook.
Cheers
Pete
scroll arrow bars missing. Right. This is a real nuisance. Slow using the key board arrows (and you have to let go of the mouse) and way too fast or uncontrolled for some using the scroll bar. Here's a workaround I found convenient in Excel. Use Shift-Option keys with the mouse wheel to move right or left on a spreadsheet.
I wasn't prepared to be as amazed as I am about the command/arrows to return to previous page on imac. total gold, thank you!
Apples problem here is that they think all users are causal surfers who watch youbtube and see thier computer as stationary phone. But Apple missed that a lot of users, specially in the business sector, do use the Macs doing just that, business.
Almost every program where you browse data in a database, uses the scrollbar arrows to step one record at a time. With this change, Apple killed the usage of Mac OS X machines for people using the machines doing busiess and turned OS X into yet another iToy incarnation.
My largest customer just went from 10.6 to 10.9 (business don't upgrade all the time as time is money and having users not producing just because they have to wait x months for every piece of mission critical software to be verified isn't an option.
Now, this scrollbar arrow issue is a real showstopper. Not in a small way, but in a big way, driving OS X back to the age of the pre ProDOS era.
How is removing useful UI features an improvement Apple?!?!?!?!?
I've just encounterd the missing scroll ARROWS since my company just now upgraded to OS 10.9.2. I've looked at many threads about it here and for some reason people think they are helping by telling us to go to Preferences > General and clicking "Show scroll BARS Always" as the solution to the missing scroll ARROWS. This preference says scroll BARS. It says nothing about scroll ARROWS within the scroll BARS. I have this setting checked, and get BARS, but not ARROWS. I only get arrows in Microsoft Word and PowerPoint, and even then they don't behave quit like they use to. I'm sure I'll get used to not having them, but it just doesn't seem like an important feature like this should be dropped.
Yeah. Sadly there is no solution for this. I don't know what they were thinking.
(actually, I do. They are trying to sell more of their horrible 'magic trackpad' product and make it look more like the iPad. Bad idea, since the iPad still kind of stinks for data input.)
Like all cases where something is seemingly inexplicable, has no practical benefit to anybody, and does clearly definable harm to some, it's a matter of ideology.
Unfortunately, for all his brilliance in design and marketing, Steve Jobs had two major faults:
1. He was convinced that whatever he felt, at any given moment, was the best way for him to interact with technology, was the only right way to interact with it.
2. He had a pathological contempt for the very idea of people using his products for work that isn't of an artistic nature.
Personally, I have never once encountered a touch screen (or touch pad, or touch anything else) that was even remotely as reliable as a good old fashioned mouse. Not on the WinDoze-based self-service digital print order carrels found in camera shops (they're frequently abominable). Not on my cheap, WiFi-only Android tablet (for which I'm still looking for a good, cheap, keyboard and mouse). And not even on Apple's devices (although they seem to be the best I've seen, and worth the price, if I actually wanted a smartphone (which I most profoundly do not!)
And "Prairie Girl1153," the best substitute I've found for scrollbar arrows is a scroll-wheel mouse. And it's not a perfect substitute, either. Workable, but not perfect.
Our company just upgraded to 10.9, and just discovered there ARE NO MORE SCROLL ARROWS IN EXCEL.
What about some of us who have shaky hands and CANNOT use a trackpad with any precision?
Apple, does no one in your employ have shaky hands?
Unbelievable.
There's the rub. Users once had quite a bit of control over the UI, including—crucially for many—the appearance of scrollbar arrows.
I know the shock, the loss of efficient control, the erratic zooming and flying about the page ...
I added the MagicPrefs Preference Pain to turn off all but vertical scrolling on the Magic Mouse/Trackpad, which helps a bit.
Scroll Bar arrows Gone?
