DO NOT UPGRADE TO LION!

Tom, please read my post again. I haven't mistaken you for someone else. I made reference to the person in my post. And yes, I agree with you - unless you can back up statements and statistics without proof, it is indeed, just BS. Exactly my point.

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Hi ChrisRR. Thanks for backing me up. I can find plenty of info just by Googling on Lion being downloaded over six million times in the first month of release and I see a handful here having problems. Even those like Tom from England and Softwater may not be able to use it but everybody else can. Would like to read this article about the other 88% if you could provide a link.

Thanks in advance

Thank you for the warning.

Those are great suggestions....where do I find those videos or pdfs. Or.......where is the PRIMER for upgrading to Lion? HeHe

My wife is happy with Lion particularly Versions - because she changes her mind so often LOL. And I'm happy with Snow Leopard because I know what I'm doing. Only thing she doesn't like is the cheezy fake leather binder on iCal, it's the wrong color.

About the issue using Preview for PDF. I believe this is because Preview now displays documents in their native format, which in the case of a PDF puts sidebars on the Left as a default.

I suppose the reason you can't use small icons now is:

1. Convergence of OSX and iOS

2. Launch Pad

Upcoming version of Windows (8) also seems to be going in the direction of migrating toward touch screen dominated layout and functions. Not exactly to my linking - let PCs be PCs and handhelds be handhelds - just what's happening because the frontier of the OS wars is now handhelds/tablets.

Pay attention everyone... these are signs of a troll... Lion has been out since June of 2011 and yet William Hamiton, just got lion, or maybe had lion a couple of months and just now only decided to share his thoughts. It was well known before Lion came out that PowerPC applications were not going to be available. Infact I belive sir you are in violation of Apple Support Communities Terms of Use: Submissions section number 3. I would suggest you upgrade your MS, Adobe, and Power PC applications

Submissions

1. Post constructive comments and questions. Unless otherwise noted, your Submission should either be a technical support question or a technical support answer. Constructive feedback about product features is welcome as well. If your Submission contains the phrase "I'm sorry for the rant, but…" you are likely in violation of this policy.

iBeb wrote:

Barney-15E wrote:

I've never noticed the Finder issue, but can repeat it. I don't see the problem with iCal, AB, and Mail. I use same setup and don't see a problem.

Just try it. Assign apps to different desktops, open them, and swith using alt+tab.

I thought it was all on the same desktop?

I have Mail, iCal, Address Book on desktop 5.

Ok, though, I'll bite. I've assigned each to a different desktop. Still no problem. Same as before.

I know the trick.

Then why'd you ask? Sounds pretty stupid to ask a question you know the answer to.

That simple? How have I missed it?! 3 actions... But you also forgot "rename the copy after deleting the original". 4 actions. Pretty inefficient, indeed.

OMG you're soooooooo right. I did that fourth step and the Earth stopped rotating. Apple is just going to have to change it back. I am sooo with you, really.

Since you were worried about the number of steps, I found another way that only takes one or two.

Option drag the file in the Finder. If you don't like that the name is appended with a number, rename it. That's only two.

I guess it's three if you count selecting the enclosing folder from the titlebar path menu.

Of course, I can only imagine myself removing the versions maybe…never.

i have 0 problems with lion on my computer... bring it into an apple store and the'll find out how to fix it that is not normal

Carlo TD wrote:

Pay attention everyone... these are signs of a troll... Lion has been out since June of 2011 and yet William Hamiton, just got lion, or maybe had lion a couple of months and just now only decided to share his thoughts.

Actually, William Hamilton started this thread 2 days after Lion was released. Like most people who start rant threads, he has long since abandonned it. He has ranted on a few occasions, but doesn't seem to be a "troll" per se.

I got it.

Carlo, you say it was well known that PowerPC applications were not going to be available before Lion came out. Where was that information to be found? Apple certainly didn't post that on their main page. All I saw were the virtues of Lion.

A theme running through this thread is those of us that have switched to Apple products because in the past these products have worked as advertised, not only worked, but worked right out of the box with narry a hitch; In fact have taken the guesswork out of owning a home computer; are somehow at fault for not researching Lion and being aware of the problems we would face if we downloaded it.

As I've said before, while I am not an idiot, when it comes to computers, I do not know how they work and don't want to. Since 2005 I have purchased nothing but Apple products with virtually no research on my part other than checking compatability with the other hardware and software I had and never a problem. Only problems I encountered was when I'd try to save a little $$ and purchased non-Apple products and they almost never worked at all. I remember buying both Belkin and Linksys modems thinking they were highly rated in the PC world but until I got Airport had constant problems. From the moment I plugged Airport into the wall downstairs all the computers in the house have functioned perfectly.

I upgraded to Lion and immediately Office For Mac 2011 stopped working. Could not open anything and neither would Preview. After spending an hour on the phone with Tech Support i was told I would have to go to the App store and buy Preview or Word for Mac. App store wouldn't let me purchase either because both were already on my Macbook. Furthermore, the only way to get rid of Lion was to format my entire hard drive and I did not back up all of Snow Leopard on my external HD so I would lose everything. 10.7.2 has solved these problems and there are only minor problems I encounter but I still fail to see how it was my responsibility to assume there'd be huge problems with Lion.

If it was well known Lion would cause headaches, why didn't Apple post something on their main site for those of us naieve enough to believe their computers would continue to function properly with the new OS. The beauty of Apple was their products didn't have to be researched. Then they release an OS with huge basic changes (like getting rid of Rosetta) and all **** breaks loose.

I blame Apple. I spend 25-75% more for Apple products than comparable PC and do so gladly because they have made my life so much easier. If I needed an all-in-1 printer and it said on the box the $49 Lexmark was compatible with Mac OS X10.5 I knew it would work. I went through 5 "compatible" with OS X 10.7 all-in-1 printers before someone on this thread suggested an Epson (forget the model) which does work after I downloaded the appropriate suggested drivers. Thanks to whomever pointed me in the right direction. Prints and copies fine although having trouble getting it to network wirelessly with the other laptops and mini but it works with my macbook via usb and i'm happy. Someone else showed how to get the battery back to 7-8 hours instead of the 3 hours it dropped to when Lion came on board. Thanks to that couple also!!

I have an external HD with huge storage capacity and will be backing up everything now but I still wish I had Snow Leopard..

Even if I have Lion running on 3 macs around, I admit SL may be a better solution for all those needing Rosetta, first of all, and other apps, which have not been updated to Lion. There are good and worse parts in Lion. Many complain that their apps do not run at all (those needing Rosetta, but also others) or run badly. This happened with all apps when Mac OS generation switched to a new one, so checking whether your current apps support or not the new OS is a logical step before deciding to make the step ahead.

Otherwise, if the mac is older, i.e. did not come with Lion preinstalled, it is easy to go back to SL, just backup your data, insert the SL install DVD, erase the disk (or create a new partition and preserve Lion too), install SL, migrate data back to SL. The only backwards compatibility is with Mail: if you have your custom folder in Mail.app, the version in Lion is newer than SL and exported Mail folder look weird, must reprocess them.

For older systems, my 2004 PowerBook is still wonderful with its Tiger and Leopard running on 2 partitions.

You certainly can't blame lion for your woes. Both Preview and Office 2011 work fine for everyone else. What probably happened is that you rearranged your file system before installing Lion and then tried to run those old applications that are now either for the wrong OS or only partially installed. Sorry to tell you, but that is entirely user error.

You probably did a complete reinstall for 10.7.2, which fixed the problem. A complet reinstall is, incidentally, the only way to reinstall Snow Leopard. That is why you always hear from the ranters the stories about how reinstalling Snow Leopard fixed all their problems. It wasn't Snow Leopard that fixed anything, it was the erasing of the user-scrambled hard drive.