Regular Expose in Lion

thanks, i know this feature, and it is very good. like the app itself. and i use this feature very often.

but there is no regular expose as known in (snow) leopard.

afaik, they're still working on that one, outside of the "mini grid" view. However, if you use Mountain Lion, you can now just go into your system preferences/Mission Control/ , then UN-CHECK "Group Windows by Application". This will give you this functionality right now, in Mountain Lion. At least Apple "chose" to listen to some of the massive outcries for the previos Expose/Spaces funcationality stripped from Lion.

in mountain lion? that sounds good to get back normal expose.

it is really hard, how many people seems to be fu***** up without expose / spaces and that apple doesnt give back this functionality to lion or mountain lion.

i remember spaces in leopard: it was a little 700 kb app, running smooth.

For those of us who manage multiple projects, each on a different desktop, and each project uses **the same applications** (e.g. Text Edit, Terminal, Safari), Mission Control and "Application Windows" is virtually unusable. When I got to view "Application Windows", it mixes the windows from all my projects together, and even if I zoom them, since the files are named systematically (e.g. "project notes", etc. for consistency and compiling overview status reports easily), there's no way to tell which project a window belongs to. Expose's feature of allowing me to view all windows of **a single space** was invaluable. Mission Control (even the "Application Windows" feature) is a step backwards in productivity for me, almost back to the way it was before Exposé.

so hepcat72, what would you need to work well? old spaces and old expose like in snow leopard?

for me, your description supports my idea, that apple is not interested in professionals anymore, but home users only.

Exactly. Well put.

I hope (not knowing if it is even possible?) someone will make an app for this? I am not a programmer. But Man if I were. Snow Leopard use of the way this feature USED to work... I am saddly missing it and it is a great example of a professional tool that I admit - most poeople did not use - but - if you did.

Then you are missing it like I am in whatever version of Lion you are using.

I was so used to 8 desktops - moving application windows within them without ever having to zoom in or out.

This is getting close:

http://totalspaces.binaryage.com/

The only thing it doesn't have, is single window Exposé, but if you leave Mission Control on and just use that part of it, it's still there.

TotalSpaces is still in beta, and it's pretty darn good so far.

@ahainen

Agreed...

^ sry, not to be an idiot, I know it was mentioned further up the thread.

in response to: "I hope (not knowing if it is even possible?) someone will make an app for this?"

Ya I see it... now... nice. I have downloaded and this is good news. Better than what we have...!

Cool...

Does anyone know if it works in Mountian Lion?

I am running Lion.

I'm running ML, works fine.

Sidenote, ML added an option to get rid of the window stacking, so you can see all windows in one desktop. Super small step in the right direction...

This is AWESOME.

This is the ONLY reason that I am still running Snow Leopard on my iMac. Was totally ****** at Apple for this and refused to buy more until there was a fix.

Working is so much easier with this.

As mentioned on my Twitter Feed - I would pay for this. And I will be. I have hash tagged Apple *** on this numerours time.

https://twitter.com/gbsjared/status/231073274975633408

chickinvoodoo wrote:

so hepcat72, what would you need to work well? old spaces and old expose like in snow leopard?

for me, your description supports my idea, that apple is not interested in professionals anymore, but home users only.

Well, as I mentioned, Exposé and Spaces pretty much was great except for minor annoyances such as how to figure out which project is in which space. MC helps a *little* with that by allowing you to have different desktop patterns, but it's not as nice as being able to label each desktop (especially since I frequently can't even see the desktop). I've mitigated the issue by using stickites placed under the dock, but I would basically just want to be able to name each desktop, which would display underneath the thumbnail.

I would also like to be able to decide whether or not I want to see recently open files, files in the dock, files from other spaces from the same app, enter "application windows" while in MC, and... and this is a major one which would improve on the OS: if an app cancels restart/shoutdown/logout or if an issue comes up during restart/shutdown/logout, I would like to be prompted with an option to restore the state of the apps closed thus far in the shutdown process. I frequently run into an issue during restart that causes the restart to be cancelled and all those apps that were quit - their state is gone and I have to deal with a mess of windows all gathered in the first desktop that I cannot effectively redistribute given my aforementioned gripes about MC.

Additionally, I was struck by one comment about being able to freely move windows between any space in the old spaces. I used that a lot too. I could even reposition windows in those spaces while in spaces. All-in-all, exposé and Spaces was much better than MC.

i can say that total spaces gives a lot of SL functionality of expose and spaces back. i would suppose that in ML with normal expose fuctionality it is nearly all possible than before. but the usibility is different. for me in SL it was more fluently in using and graphical performance. but there is still the problem to define workarounds for getting project (windows) organised