Bring back old working Spaces and Expose

Mission Control is a complete misfire and several steps backwards in design and usability. They took something that was beautifully simple and nearly flawless and turned it into a chaotic mess for no reason.


I was a heavy user of Spaces and Expose and it was easily my favorite OS X feature hands down. Now it's been three days of Lion and I just avoid Mission Control at all costs and find myself switching apps instead, something I would expect from Microsoft, not Apple.


Trying to understand how to use MC without going insane I started simply swithing apps instead of thinking about spaces, and at least that made some sense, but there was still a lot of unnecessary changing of spaces back and forth for no reason. It dawned on me to try something: I killed all Spaces and have a single desktop with every window. You know, like Windows would do. As a testament of what a terrible idea MC is, it works a lot better this way. When you do Expose you can at least understand what you're looking at, and you don't care that the tiny Space thumbnail is being covered up by your windows. There's also no unnecessary shuffling between spaces. It's an obviously cluttered, primitive, step back in sophistication and usability that almost makes me wish I had Vista's Flip 3D, but at least I am not spending half of my time jumping between spaces and hunting down lost windows.


Here's some of the issues with Mission Control:


- It's visually confusing and messy. The application windows usually cover the Spaces thumbnails along the top. What is the point of showing me the Spaces if they're covered up with windows? Isn't that defeating the very point of Mission Control? Why do I need to see my desktop background inset within *another* background in MC? Why are the Windows stacked so tightly and messily? It's impossible to pick the window you want unless you do "App Expose". What is the point of having Spaces previews if they're so tiny you can barely see what it's in them anyway? They used to be nice, clean, large previews. Now it's a stupid mess of tiny thumbnails with drop shadows, text labels, multiple backgrounds, being covered by app windows... ugh.


- The fact that they are now a linear row of spaces along the top is clearly much less user friendly than the old grid method, which was spatially and visualy easy to use and memorize. Now I have to think about numbers for desktops instead of "up" or "down". You know how much easier it is to type numbers on a keypad versus pecking the linear numbers along the top of your keyboard? Same thing. Also, you could go into the old Spaces and accurately hit the Space you want to go to because they were huge, easy to read and remember targets. Now they're tiny, hard to remember and usually hidden under something else.


- It took the advantages of both Spaces and Expose and eliminated them in order to merge them, who knows why. You used to be able to go into Spaces, and then Expose while there to reveal every window, and find *any* open window in seconds. Now it's impossible. You have to shuffle haplessly through spaces and hit expose and hope the window you're looking for shows up, and if that fails, which happens often, then you have to switch to every application and hit app expose. What a mess.


Easy solution: Just bring back the old Spaces and Expose, maybe as an option to MC. Or at least give us the option fo a grid layout and old style Expose. Please. Please. Please.

Mac OS X (10.6.7)

Posted on Jul 23, 2011 12:49 AM

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May 14, 2012 4:15 AM in response to petermac87

petermac87 wrote:


iPotential wrote:


Mine does not have "Group windows by application" - as shown in this article.


Does anyone else? Is there a hack to turn it on?

Did you read the article you gave us the link to? It is saying that expose and that option in the menu is taken from a screenshot from Mountain Lion. How would anybody have it in Lion? If someone has it in a ML Developer's copy then they are not allowed to discuss it here, only in the developers forums. Nobody will make a hack if it's returning shortly in a new OS.


Pete


Pete - thanks, no I didn't notice the Mountain Lion reference, just assumed that images were from a recent release - too much skimming the web...

May 21, 2012 3:45 AM in response to tmsnnnz

I wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment in this thread... there are TWO major drawbacks of Mission Control:


1) I can't layout my desktops in a grid... it's this long line now. I run 12 desktops, and had a wonderful system of moving up/down, left/right. Nothing was too far away. Now I have to remember to move 8 desktops to the right/left, or some other abomination. <sigh>


2) I can't shuffle MULTIPLE individual windows between desktops. The old (and much loved) spaces I could open it up, shuffle many windows around to where I wanted, then click the desktop I wanted and go there. Simple, elegant, and oh so "Apple". Mission Control certainly isn't anywhere near as slick. <sigh>


I delayed upgrading to Lion to get things like this shaken out, but I should have read the reviews before I took the plunge.


AT LEAST GIVE US THE OPTION TO KEEP USING SPACES... IT'S *MUCH* BETTER THAN MISSION CONTROL!

Jun 13, 2012 9:48 AM in response to gclough

It's only a partial solution, but TotalSpaces at least gives you back the old familiar grid format that Spaces used to have:


totalspaces.binaryage.com


It's not as slick as Expose/Spaces together, but at least I'm not tearing my hair out. The big missing piece is being able to open Spaces to see all of your desktops, and then open Expose to see all windows on all desktops. Meh, I'm happy to be 90% back to what I'm used to... but seriously, why is Apple forcing us to compromise like this?

Jun 13, 2012 1:35 PM in response to gclough

I can second this, TotalSpaces is brings back some of the experience and is better than nothing or missioncontrol on its own. if they could make the overview fill the wholescreen, that would be great.


Imagine how amazing that will be on the new Retina display, being able to zoom out and still read the small print !


I'm very optimistic about what i've seen of the UN-tickable "group windows by appliction" option for ML MC.

althought the loss of screenspace for the row of desktops is extremely irritating, it would probably be ok triggering expose and then swiping through the 'exposed' desktops.

If they think options clutter a UI, they could simply decide to group or not based on how crowded the expose screen becomes, or always group if number of applications >1


One more tweak I would like is Wrapround for swiping through desktops... that more fluid.. just contrinue in whichever direction is most comfortable till you find what you're after.

Aug 25, 2012 1:48 PM in response to gilbr

gilbr wrote:


This brings back the Spaces functionality: http://totalspaces.binaryage.com/


I was _very_upset_ when Apple took it away, and am very glad that TotalSpaces brings it back. So, to say "thank you" I'm spreading the word.


Great software, works as expected, worth the $12.

Yes thanks. Others put up a link to it months ago. Its not for my liking, but enjoy


Cheers


Pete

Jan 18, 2013 11:15 PM in response to Skip 101

Skip 101 wrote:


I used to use spaces all the time, i had my research on one page follow by word, itunes, facebook, and other pages all there like have many monitors in one, now i have to alt tab and it. Most importantly the way i could arrange and organise all my work. Should bring it back.


Total Spaces is a very cheap third party application that does everything that Spaces and Expose used to do. I use it all the time and never bother with the poor replacement Mission Control which I find to be useless for what I am doing.


The link is http://totalspaces.binaryage.com


I guarantee that once the 15 day free trial has expired you won't mind paying the $15 for the full application.


Hope this helps. It has certainly helped me.

Feb 4, 2013 3:37 PM in response to Acer griseum

Acer griseum wrote:


Dear Mac,


Just bring back spaces. MC is garbage and you know it.


Plus why did my imac (12GB ram) run so much smoother on snow leopard than it does now? I am starting to get that feeling that I got back in the day when I left windows for OSX panther.

You are not talking to Apple here, and the majority (millions) have adopted MC with no issues. Certainly not rubbish in my opinion. You can go back to Snow Leopard, go back to windows even, but you should have done your homework before upgrading. There was certainly no shortage of debate about it on the net. So my suggestion? Reinstall Snow Leopard from your last backup before you updated. You did make a backup didn't you?


Cheers


Pete

Feb 4, 2013 11:27 PM in response to petermac87

petermac87 wrote:


Acer griseum wrote:


Dear Mac,


Just bring back spaces. MC is garbage and you know it.


Plus why did my imac (12GB ram) run so much smoother on snow leopard than it does now? I am starting to get that feeling that I got back in the day when I left windows for OSX panther.

You are not talking to Apple here, and the majority (millions) have adopted MC with no issues. Certainly not rubbish in my opinion. You can go back to Snow Leopard, go back to windows even, but you should have done your homework before upgrading. There was certainly no shortage of debate about it on the net. So my suggestion? Reinstall Snow Leopard from your last backup before you updated. You did make a backup didn't you?


Cheers


Pete

Pete I have a houseful of Apple products and have been a fan of the company for many years but that does not necessarily mean that I have to agree with everything they do. You'll be trying to convince me that the recent massive fall in the share price is nothing to worry about and not an indication that Apple is not impressing the market.


MC is a thoruoghly awful replacement for S & E and obviously that won't worry you as by your own previous admission you never used S & E. Not having Adobe on iOS is fine if you don't look at websites that require Adobe. Otherwise it is a pain in the backside.


Mac just buy yourself TOTALSPACES which at $15 is a superb replacement for S & E.The link is http://totalspaces.binaryage.com

Feb 5, 2013 12:08 AM in response to DaveSpencer

DaveSpencer wrote:


You'll be trying to convince me that the recent massive fall in the share price is nothing to worry about and not an indication that Apple is not impressing the market.


MC is a thoruoghly awful replacement for S & E and obviously that won't worry you as by your own previous admission you never used S & E.

I won't try to convince you of anything. And I always used spaces and expose. I now find after two years or more that MC is far superior. S&E?? Pretty much forgotten about it.....and you. Forgot to unsubscribe fro this thread, but get your facts straight next time. And this is very old news. Yawn & Bye.


Pete

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