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Everybody settle down about Lion!

So far Lion has been out for 4 days, sure there are going to be bugs its the first version of a new operating system!, of course everything isnt going to be perfect. Apple is already seeding (or about to seed) 10.7.2 for developers and this should fix some bugs and problems.


People need to settle down about simple little bugs, i have two macs that i upgraded a couple of days ago and so far havent had any bugs whatsoever, and even if i come across some i certinetly wont retreat back to Snow Leopard.

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7)

Posted on Jul 23, 2011 9:06 PM

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Jul 26, 2011 8:04 AM in response to Lagwolf

Sadly this is it 😟 Apple has dumped all of its loyal customers for the new "i" generation. They dumped applications in Final Cut Pro which cost them tons and tons of money and would rather embrace an Angry Bird generation that pays a lot due to sheer size and demands little.


What they are calling Lion now is "The Dumb Blond of Operating Systems." - http://notethisdown.posterous.com/mac-os-x-lion-the-dumb-blond-of-operating-sys


Its about business. Apple has never cared what you think or feel, they make money. That's what you do in business.

Jul 26, 2011 8:14 AM in response to videopixels

So some marketing consultant in London posts a blog entry and it's what "they're" calling Lion? Really? I think it's what he's calling Lion. Man, history repeats itself. Next thing someone will call the Mac a toy again, and some poor innocent will post here saying that. Read the Siricusa article referenced above, which is acrtually intelligent, thought out based on years of analysis and well researched, and come back and say that. Honestly.

Jul 26, 2011 8:18 AM in response to Andrew LaGow

you made me lol, You had me up until you said MS imitates Apple! Windows is a dull, boring POS operating system that has been hobbled together over the years to create a true monster. OS X is nothing like windows and if you really knew your history, then you would never had made such a remark in the first place!


Having not been able to upgrade to Lion (through the sheer arrogance and incompetence of the Lion "up to date" team) I am not placed to comment too far on Lion, however, on a production machine it would be a little foolish to adopt Lion at release time, professionals should know this, and if they didn't, they do now. Sure Apple will iron out the creases and release an update. That is not to say that getting things wrong on hardware that only comes in a handful of configurations makes me think Apple should maybe ask Microsoft how to beta test software! It seems the biggest issue professionals are having with Apple's new software model i.e. Lion, final cut pro, etc is the move heavily towards the consumer that has left what is basically apple's "business" users out in the cold, no wonder these people aren't happy and quite rightly so!


The bottom line is Apple only cares for the mainstream these days. Those of us that thought we had our own little mac world going on are beginning to have the illusion shattered. The same is true for those of us that until a few weeks ago would have swore on anything holy or sacred that apple had the best customer services. My personal thought is that with the CEO so generally so poorly Apple actually has weak leadership at the moment and threads like this are the proof and that's a major shame.


As a (quite pathetic in most people's eyes) geek, nerd, technology fanboy I can pee myself with excitment just as much as the biggest koolaid drinker on this forum at the prospect of an Apple keynote (especially a jobs keynote, of course) but this level of FUBARing of an OS release is disgraceful!


If you took the time to read this post then I thank you, thats 5 mins of your life you will never get back

Jul 26, 2011 8:23 AM in response to David Armstrong (SE)

I second that emotion😁


I also have been around since OS 9.

Have just upgraded to my third Mac, an iMac i7 with 12Gb on board. Had 10.6 installed and as soon as 10.7 came out I got that. I think Lion is such a good OS with so much promise and I just love the use of gestures.


The only issues I have are the occasional freeze and a automatic sleep problem, which I am working round by forcing it to sleep from the Finder. I suspect most of my freezes are due to migrating my data and apps from 10.4 so am gradually clearing out the deadwood and hoping that will do the trick.


Apple WILL get it right, of that I am certain and yes I think myself lucky I only have to use Windows at work.......

Jul 26, 2011 8:35 AM in response to videopixels

"they" no "someone" is calling it that. And it appearantly suites you and you use it to back up your arguments. Apple is moving towards a new way of working with computers and working with internet. And not only Apple is doing that. THE whole it-business is doing that. Microsoft is doing that as well. Windows 8 Will be a hybrid system for desktops, laptops and tablets. The cloud, touchscreens and gestures are not some hype from an "i" generation. It's à new reality for evryone working with computers. And i welcome this new direction.

Jul 26, 2011 8:38 AM in response to Andrew LaGow

Sorry, I didn't "get" the joke 🙂


Comparing OS X to Windows gives me nightmares. I used windows for a long, long time, sure with 7 and even XP sp3 stability had come on leaps and bounds. But it's just so dull it hurts, it's like the tax officer of operating systems. The day I killed ALL of my windows installs was a very happy day indeed. 🙂



By the way, I have been corresponding by email with Apple regarding the up to date serial number issues, but all I got was fobbed off "we'll be in contact soon", "we are investigating", etc. For the sake of my own time, I just bit the bullett and bought Lion from the mac app store. In short Apple did absolutely NOTHING to rectify the issue. Here's hoping my upgrade is smooth and I like the new "features"!

Jul 26, 2011 9:26 AM in response to Yer_Man

Terence Devlin wrote: "Go back through the forums for when 10.6 was released, 10.5, 10.4, 10.3 and so on and you'll see the exact same posts - the specifics change, of course, but every OS update brings the same chorus of "It's a Disaster", "Is Apple becoming Microsoft" "It's an incompetent OS roll-out" etc etc etc."


Amen! I continue to chuckle and marvel at the folks who are certain -- certain! -- that just because *they* are experiencing a problem, then *everyone* must be experiencing the same problem.


Folks, if your system becomes completely hosed by the upgrade (e.g. kernel panics, freezes, and widespread data loss) it's because your installation went awry somehow, or your hard drive had undiagnosed underlying corruption. It's not your fault, but neither is it a widespread, crippling issue demonstrating Apple's "arrogance and incompetence."


On the other hand, if your system just seems sluggish immediately after the upgrade, well, I know what that is too: Spotlight is reindexing your hard drive. You can tell it's doing so if there's a pulsating dot in the Spotlight menu at the far-right corner of your menu bar. Two of my colleagues frustratedly complained how slow Lion was, and in both cases the slowdown was temporary, caused by the indexing.


Apple really should display a dialog box warning users that Spotlight indexing is prone to slow them down for an hour or so.

Jul 26, 2011 10:06 AM in response to Eric Westby

Really! You don't get it. Support has ended for many software applications. Apple has murdered a multi billion dollar industry with Final Cut Pro. There is no where to go, it is not about "updating" or riding the Apple curve, we have been decieved.


Apple will never be the same again, I don't care what happened with all the previous updates. People are going to lose money and jobs now.

Everybody settle down about Lion!

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