Level 1

2 points

save as missing in lion

For those of us who make modifications to a document on a regular basis, but need to retain the previous versions, or who need to keep the same revised document in several places, the removal of "Save As" is a disaster. In order to save as, you must, apparently, first export the document as a WORD or PDF, then after doing that, close the pages document, (Then a save as comes up,) allowing one save as and automatically closing the document. I have a series of files that i must keep in several locations, and they all change weekly, but I must be able to reference past copies as well. It aqppears that the only way to do this is to buy WORD and forget about Pages. Surely this must be a mistake by a committee who does not do word processing, or am I alone in this type of use?

I WORK, Pages-OTHER, Mac OS X (10.7)

Posted on Jul 25, 2011 12:00 PM

270 replies

Feb 8, 2012 7:02 AM in response to deloyd

I've been using Macs for 20+ years. I have various Apple products. I follow the news, I update when appropriate.

However, some of the changes in Lion, such as the omission of Save As, seem retrograde. Of course there are several ways around it, but none as simple. I believe in progress but, somewhere in the back of my head, someone is quietly chanting: "If it ain't broke ......

fruhulda

Level 6

15,167 points

Feb 8, 2012 8:03 AM in response to Ros Goode

Tell Apple about it. http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

I was and am happy with Snow Leopard 10.6.8 and I will not upgrade to Lion. As you said "If it aint't broke…"

Feb 8, 2012 3:21 PM in response to fruhulda

You're absolutely right - I hung on for a while but caved and now really regret it, especially what they've done to iCal and Address Book (not just the horrible leather stuff, although I know I could fix that), but I needed to do it to be able to network calendars, for instance, with my husband's new MacBook and other stuff.

Feb 9, 2012 10:40 AM in response to deloyd

Does anyone know if it's possible to TURN OFF versions? And, what happens when you do? Does it make saving simpler or more complex??

Just wondering.

Right now I'm sticking with Snow Leopard 10.6.8 and happy with it. But, have read this entire thread and in the back of my mind I thought I read somewhere else that versions could be turned off. ??

KOENIG Yvan

Level 8

41,819 points

Feb 9, 2012 11:19 AM in response to linda2009

Simple answer : NO you can't

Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) jeudi 9 février 2012

iMac 21”5, i7, 2.8 GHz, 12 Gbytes, 1 Tbytes, mac OS X 10.6.8 and 10.7.3

My Box account is : http://www.box.com/s/00qnssoyeq2xvc22ra4k

Feb 9, 2012 11:23 AM in response to KOENIG Yvan

BUMMER.

KOENIG Yvan

Level 8

41,819 points

Feb 16, 2012 7:42 AM in response to linda2009

I guess that you will be glad to read this page :

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-16/apple-speeds-mac-mountain-lion-operatin g-system-to-challenge-windows-8.html😍

Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) jeudi 16 février 2012

iMac 21”5, i7, 2.8 GHz, 12 Gbytes, 1 Tbytes, mac OS X 10.6.8 and 10.7.3

My Box account is : http://www.box.com/s/00qnssoyeq2xvc22ra4k

raftr

Level 1

4 points

Feb 16, 2012 11:03 AM in response to KOENIG Yvan

There is hope:

http://www.blueboxmoon.com/wordpress/?p=486

If only we could find a way to mark all drives (especially startup drive) as "not supporting permanent version storage" we could be on our way to disabling versions entirely—in theory.

Feb 16, 2012 12:08 PM in response to fruhulda

fruhulda wrote:

Tell Apple about it. http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

I was and am happy with Snow Leopard 10.6.8 and I will not upgrade to Lion. As you said "If it aint't broke…"

I'm with you, fruhulda, totally!! After reading all about Versions (and I understand where Yvan is coming from about changing, etc.), I don't think I would like it at all!! So I'm sticking with Snow Leopard!! And, I did let Apple know about it!

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I guess that you will be glad to read this page :

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-16/apple-speeds-mac-mountain-lion-operatin g-system-to-challenge-windows-8.html -----------------------------------------------

Yvan, I am actually Glad to read raftr's page link!! LOL! Thank you, raftr for posting.

KOENIG Yvan

Level 8

41,819 points

Feb 16, 2012 12:30 PM in response to linda2009

The raftr's link change nothing to Versions.

I didn't realised that the described dialog was introduced by 10.7.3.

Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) jeudi 16 février 2012

iMac 21”5, i7, 2.8 GHz, 12 Gbytes, 1 Tbytes, mac OS X 10.6.8 and 10.7.3

My Box account is : http://www.box.com/s/00qnssoyeq2xvc22ra4k

raftr

Level 1

4 points

Feb 16, 2012 1:15 PM in response to KOENIG Yvan

There is some way for the system to decide a volume doesn't support versions and there could be a way to tell it it doesn't. I don't think it will be so easy to find though.

KOENIG Yvan

Level 8

41,819 points

Feb 17, 2012 12:31 AM in response to raftr

If it was so easy and so required, after more than six months, it would be discovered.

Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) vendredi 17 février 2012

iMac 21”5, i7, 2.8 GHz, 12 Gbytes, 1 Tbytes, mac OS X 10.6.8 and 10.7.3

My Box account is : http://www.box.com/s/00qnssoyeq2xvc22ra4k

raftr

Level 1

4 points

Feb 19, 2012 8:51 PM in response to KOENIG Yvan

I don't think many people were looking for that solution yet, also I think the alert message seems new coming with 10.7.3.

I think a lot of OSX users haven't come across the new saving behaviour, they learn about it as they lose data because of it. I just told a few people who use macs daily and they had no idea—their software isn't using autosave/versioning yet.

Let's wait until large software suites that deal with large files (Adobe CS) implement this borked saving paradigm… But the truth is, people who use computers for work are no longer Apple customer base and they don't care.

I understand all App Store apps are forced to use the new saving API from March 1? Is that right?

KOENIG Yvan

Level 8

41,819 points

Feb 20, 2012 12:35 AM in response to raftr

raftr wrote:

I understand all App Store apps are forced to use the new saving API from March 1? Is that right?

I understood the same 😉

We will have to live with the new scheme or leave the system. It's just what I wrote for months.

I'm not trying to dream what an operating system must be, I try to use the existing one in the better way.

Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) lundi 20 février 2012

iMac 21”5, i7, 2.8 GHz, 12 Gbytes, 1 Tbytes, mac OS X 10.6.8 and 10.7.3

My Box account is : http://www.box.com/s/00qnssoyeq2xvc22ra4k

deloyd Author

Level 1

2 points

Apr 21, 2012 7:58 PM in response to deloyd

I started this post right after Lion came out. I was dismayed, upset and filled with disbelief that Apple, once again, would try to save me from myself. SAVE AS was basic, and integrated into software from every company that allowed a document to be modified. I really believed Apple would see the many unhappy posts and quickly realize what a huge mistake they had made. It made no sense to have versions and templates and multiple copies and several steps to do what one step did perfectly.

Well, 2 weeks ago, I solved the problem and I now have SAVE AS back in my word processing life. It was a simple fix, although it cost me a bit...I bought MICROSOFT WORD for MAC. I have never been happier since I bought my first MAC...a time when SAVE AS worked, when I could alter an original document and make changes and save it while keeping the original with one fast and simple click. And I can find my changed documents becaues I can put it exactly where I want to put it under the new client name or any place else to fit MY way of doing business.

THANK YOU MICROSOFT...wake up Apple...Dont buy Pages or Keynote or Numbers...buy Microsoft Office

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