save as missing in lion

For those of us who make modifications to a document on a regular basis, but need to retain the previous versions, or who need to keep the same revised document in several places, the removal of "Save As" is a disaster. In order to save as, you must, apparently, first export the document as a WORD or PDF, then after doing that, close the pages document, (Then a save as comes up,) allowing one save as and automatically closing the document. I have a series of files that i must keep in several locations, and they all change weekly, but I must be able to reference past copies as well. It aqppears that the only way to do this is to buy WORD and forget about Pages. Surely this must be a mistake by a committee who does not do word processing, or am I alone in this type of use?

I WORK, Pages-OTHER, Mac OS X (10.7)

Posted on Jul 25, 2011 12:00 PM

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Apr 21, 2012 9:34 PM in response to deloyd

Ditto. I did the same. Won't bother with Apple's BS idea of how we SHOULD work anymore.


MS Office 2011 does not support the advantages of the 64-bit OS. I haven't noticed any performance improvement in the 64-bit Pages or Numbers. So you'll never notice. But, it has SAVE AS! Convert sooner, rather than later. List formatting doesn't convert well. Pages documents only print the outline format with no text! Now I understand why Windows users complained about problems associated with documents converted from Pages. Will stick with MS Office.

Apr 22, 2012 3:09 PM in response to deloyd

Others who're following this thread might want to consider Nisus Writer, either Express or Pro. I've been a fan since pre-OS X days. It's a lot cheaper; has a clean, efficient interface; is fast and non-bloated; and still includes more features than I can get my mind around. Also, if you're among those who care about such things, it's not Microsoft. 😉


http://www.nisus.com/pro/?gclid=CPi9k8C0ya8CFWpntgodDD-vZg

Apr 23, 2012 2:17 AM in response to deloyd

A Hack to Get Back “Save As”

by Shaun Blanc http://shawnblanc.net/2011/11/save-as-hack/ November 29, 2011

I miss Save As. A lot.

A common workflow for me was to open a previously saved document and use it as my template for a new document. I would make changes to it and then save it a as a new document. To Save As meant you took the document you were working on and saved it as a new document in its current state while discarding those changes from the original and leaving that original document as it was. I used Save As all the time.

But in Lion, the ability to Save As is gone. Sadly, Command+Shift+S gets you nothing.

In place of “Save As”, we now have “Duplicate”.1

Duplicating means the document you’re currently using gets, well, duplicated. A new document window pops up and out of the original and now you have two. The new one gets named something like “my document copy” and now you have two documents open.

If you Duplicate your file after you’ve already begun making edits to it then you’ll have the option to: (a) revert the original document back to it’s pre-edited state once you’ve duplicated it; (b) keep the current document as it is and duplicate it as well; (c) cancel.

User uploaded file

For the most part, Duplicate and Revert is the new Save As.

In the end you mostly get the same result as what we used to with Save As, but this duplicating and reverting business always feels cumbersome to me. Moreover, it’s a little bit scary — it still catches me off guard and forces me to stop and think for a few seconds about what it is I’m doing. I used to just hit Command+Shift+S and have my new document based on the first in no time.

And to add insult to injury, as a keyboard junkie it’s not just the removing of “Save As” that saddens me. It is also the removal of a very handy keyboard shortcut that I used many times a day: Command+Shift+S

And so, by harnessing the power of Keyboard Maestro, I set up Command+Shift+S as a “Save As Hack”.

  • I set the macro to only run in Pages, Numbers, Byword, and TextEdit. These are the apps I use on a daily or near-daily basis.
  • With a keyboard shortcut of Command+Shift+S, the macro will select “Duplicate” from the File menu, choose “Duplicate and Revert” for the original document, close the original document, and then open up a Save dialog box for the new document.

User uploaded fileIn essence, it’s an automated hack to get Save As and its keyboard shortcut back.You can download the macro here.

The Save As menu option isn’t gone completely from the system, just only for apps that utilize new document features in Lion such as versioning and auto save. For apps I use the most often, Duplicate has replaced Save As in Pages, Numbers, TextEdit, Byword. However, for apps which have not updated for the new Lion features (such as Adobe CS3), the Save As menu item is still present.

Apr 23, 2012 6:30 AM in response to fruhulda

Hi fruhulda


Is it surprizing to be puzzled when a tool doing what I delivered months ago is described a very positive way when I was said : we don't want a script, an extraneous tool to fit the gap ?

A substitute of Save As was available for months. An other one is available now.

Better too much than too less.


Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) lundi 23 avril 2012

iMac 21”5, i7, 2.8 GHz, 12 Gbytes, 1 Tbytes, mac OS X 10.6.8 and 10.7.3

My Box account is : http://www.box.com/s/00qnssoyeq2xvc22ra4k

Apr 29, 2012 9:25 AM in response to deloyd

People such as koenig enjoy srtirring up controversy that keeps them in the limelight. He/she has spent so much precious time and energy here justifying the elimination of a time-saving feature which probably hundreds of thousands of frustrated Pages, Numbers and TextEdit users agree was a gross mistake. Apple goofed on this one. The workarounds are absurd.


Apple doesn't formally read these forums. Tell Apple what you think about the loss of Save As here http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

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