What happened to Save As?

I'm running the latest version of Mountain Lion and Save As acts the same way for me whether I have the "Ask to Keep Changes" checkbox checked or not.

After making the System Preference and other changes I noted, the apps I tried all work as I expect (pre Lion). Unfortunately, I can only make those tests with a limited number of apps since I don't use any of the iLife or iWork programs.

TextEdit and Preview do work like Snow Leopard. If I make changes and just close the file, I get an option to Revert Changes, which is the same result as the previous Don't Save. If I do a Save As, the original closes and stays the way it was when I opened it. Only the new document has the changes.

I don't have a direct interest as I use Microsoft and Adobe products.

Same here. All of my real production work is done in the Adobe Master Collection. I have not a single use, or need for any of the iLife or iWork apps.

A lot of folks dislike MS, and while I don't like things about them either, I have used Office for a long time and see nothing wrong with it. I also use a Microsoft Ergonomic 4000 keyboard. It's the only ergo keyboard I've found for the Mac that doesn't cost a fortune, isn't wireless and has Mac drivers. It's sturdy and very comfortable to use. I can't stand straight keyboards, and that's all Apple offers.

The problem with getting Mountain Lion to fix this is that ML still hasn't solved the infamous 'Slow TimeMachine bug.' There's an entire huge thread on that subject on these forums.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4145494?answerId=21305854022#21305854022&ac_cid=tw123456#21305854

The problem with getting Mountain Lion to fix this is that ML still hasn't solved the infamous 'Slow TimeMachine bug.'

Hadn't seen that thread. But then, I never use TM so don't even look at such topics.

You have articulated my frustration with Save a Stupid Version eloquently. Thank you.

Totally agree with the majority of people here: the loss of the Save As function is, well, a real loss!

It now takes twice as long to rename a file than it used to and this is not progress. It is change for the sake of change.

Innovation, we like (nay, we expect it of Apple); but meddling needlessly, er, no.

siphoneturton wrote:

Totally agree with the majority of people here: the loss of the Save As function is, well, a real loss!

It now takes twice as long to rename a file than it used to and this is not progress. It is change for the sake of change.

Innovation, we like (nay, we expect it of Apple); but meddling needlessly, er, no.

I hope you're aware that Save As... is now available again in OS 10.8 (Mountain Lion). Hold down the option key when clicking on the file menu, and Save As... will appear. It functions pretty much the same way it did in pre-Lion operating systems.

Thanks, DChord568, I didn't know that this function existed.

I haven't long updated our system and still getting to grips with what's new and what's gone. I have found, sadly, that my 2011 MacBook Pro does have the spinning beachball far more often then when on 10.6; indeed, our new iMac (pre-loaded with M/Lion) also suffers from the spinning ball; the old one never did. Let's hope that is resolved with Mavericks!

Again, thank you for taking time to respond.

Best wishes

Simon

"It functions pretty much the same way..."

It's that "pretty much" that bothers me. I've finally upgraded to ML and like it fairly well except for some strange issues with color saturation in the finder. But I'm sticking with the old/new duplicate and save routine I was forced to use in Lion. The reason is that I just want to be sure that my original file is going to still exist in its original form in any circumstance.

I just don't trust the new save as. Am I wrong?

Hi Donnie,

I may have already pointed you to this, but see my notes here to see how to get Mountain Lion's Save As… to behave almost exactly like Snow Leopard. The only real difference is that Autosave/Versions is still running in the background for those apps that use it. But files will no longer be saved without your consent when you close them, and a Save As… actually will save your changes only to the new document, not the one you were working from.

It's the only way I'll use Mountain Lion. Hopefully, we'll be able to do the same type of thing in Mavericks, 10.9.

except for some strange issues with color saturation in the finder.

That's a known bug which affects only some model Macs. I've narrowed it down to where it happens and have filed a bug report. I got it in to late for Apple to really look into it before 10.8.4's release. Hopefully, it will be fixed in a 10.8.5 update.

I've tried to figure this out and I find it impossible. Today's example: I download an image from Facebook. It opens in Preview. I want to save it - but where it "Save As" - it's not there! So what am I supposed to do instead? Someone please tell me. I've got options like "Duplicate" (so does that mean I then have two identical versions open at the same time? Why? Or "Save" - save where? It doesn't tell me - so I save but where did it go? Or "Move" - move from where? Or "rename" - which doens't seem to do anything close to what you'd expect it to. What a mess, how can this be?

The easiest solution is just press Option, and Save As will appear. It's another key stroke, but you can't fight city hall.

Thanks for the tip. I should have guessed. There seems to be more and more of this menu item stupidity from Apple. It's nice of them to provide a keystoke to undo their crass changes though.

Willie Nelson, I LOVE YOU!

Why has it taken months and months on this forum for the fact that holding down your Option key while clicking the "File" menu option causes "Save As" to appear to emerge???

At any rate, thank you!

Well, I love you too, for saying thanks. Most happy to help, even a little bit!