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fluffy Author

Level 1

69 points

Logic 9's UI extremely laggy - any fixes?

I've been a pretty happy Logic user since 2004, but lately version 9 has been really cheezing me off. It seems that whenever I'm playing my current project, the user interface becomes completely unresponsive to key commands and mouse clicks, which will be delayed for many seconds, or ignored entirely.

This is a fresh install of Logic Pro 9.1.4, 32-bit, on one of the new Mac minis (dual 2.7GHz i7, 4GB RAM, stock 500GB hard drive), with a PreSonus FireStudio Project. However, this was also happening on my previous system, a 2008 15" unibody MacBook Pro. It was happening a little bit on Snow Leopard but it's gotten much worse under Lion. My MacBook had aftermarket RAM (8GB) and an aftermarket SSD, but everything in the Mini is stock.

It's happening even if I only have one or two tracks, although it seems to be worse if I have any of the various metering plugins running and open, or ChanEQ with the analyzer turned on. I wonder if maybe those plugins aren't handling UI updates correctly, or something.

Just to be clear, I have absolutely no third-party AudioUnits installed, and it's neither a CPU nor an I/O issue (both gauges are pretty much empty, and Activity Monitor shows Logic as taking about 10% of one CPU), and yet it takes anywhere from 3-10 seconds for a simple mouse click to go through.

This is getting EXTREMELY frustrating, especially since the lag seems to always happen at the worst moments (i.e. I'm trying to turn down the volume on a track which suddenly got really loud, and the lack of responsiveness means my ears get blasted and I have to take a break for them to recover before I can start mixing again).

Has anyone else been experiencing this and found a workaround? Is anyone at Apple even paying attention to these issues? I feel like it's the same problem that was being discussed in this thread, which was never resolved: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2396951

Message was edited by: robert113

Mac mini, Mac OS X (10.7), 2.7GHz i7, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD

Posted on Jul 30, 2011 7:31 PM

516 replies

hypnotik

Level 1

0 points

Jul 15, 2012 2:22 AM in response to SmokenSound

You're showing me some plugin alliance plugins, are they updated to the latest version ? becasue the latest one correct some plugins lags. But i don't know if it's linked to the Logic GUI problem. If it is, well it means that every 3rd party Dev (not really every but many) needs to rewrite/check their code to match Logic/Apple standards ??

Maybe something has changed...and we're not aware about it....

Jul 15, 2012 2:36 AM in response to hypnotik

Ofcource i've updated them all! I tryed everthing, and still trying )

Jul 15, 2012 2:38 AM in response to fluffy

I sent it already to apple via the feedback form like hypnotik said. I hope you all will do that too!

hypnotik

Level 1

0 points

Jul 15, 2012 6:31 AM in response to Michael Siedenbiedel

If some of you want to test something that i'm currently testing there :

I thought maybe run Logic with High Priority would avoid a bit this issue (??)

You can try this app if you're not into CLI :

http://www.eosgarden.com/en/freeware/process-renicer/download/

It can be done in CLI also by typing :

renice -20 "pid process", the pid is an info you can find into the activity monitor after running Logic, -20 sets high priority.

happy testing.

Jul 15, 2012 11:41 PM in response to fluffy

So we cant get brand new Retina mbp, cuz it comes with Lion and Gui lags ( ohhh (

Jul 18, 2012 10:03 AM in response to SmokenSound

Or maybe 650m in retinas will improve GUI perfomance ?

hypnotik

Level 1

0 points

Jul 18, 2012 10:11 AM in response to SmokenSound

if you find that buying new hardware is the solution.....

Cubase, Protools, Reaper, Presonus, Ableton....all these software are exempt of this kind of bug. But i don't want a new software, i just want Apple make work Logic in a decent way.

Jul 18, 2012 10:31 AM in response to hypnotik

Before buying new hardware or switching apps it would make sense to wait the week or two until new OS versions ship and see if that fixes the problem.

Jul 18, 2012 10:43 AM in response to Mike Connelly

I want retina anyway ) Just hoping better graphics will improve situation. Or maybe new lion, or new logic ver.

hypnotik

Level 1

0 points

Jul 18, 2012 10:47 AM in response to SmokenSound

I already spent 500+$ to upgrade my mac pro graphics without any improvements. So i don't hope anything from a new hardware because it seems to be a software related problem!

A bit of communication from Logic support would be the best thing.....really it's fuc*ing annoying to be in hope of something, waiting, without any knowledge of what's going on.

Jul 18, 2012 11:10 AM in response to hypnotik

Thats tru. Not having a clue of whats going on, or what bugs they will fix in next patch is pretty bad. And still no release date for Logic X, it has been 3 years now without major update.

hypnotik

Level 1

0 points

Jul 18, 2012 1:56 PM in response to SmokenSound

http://youtu.be/TNrGHMeMSVA

Speechless

Apple PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Even with one poor LinearPhase EQ with or without analyzer.

I'm going to cry. Now.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

Eriksimon

Level 6

15,422 points

Jul 19, 2012 1:51 AM in response to hypnotik

Could any of the moderators clarify this?

This may be a bit off topic, but there is an announcement, right under the topic title, "branched out to a new discussion" and then when you click the word "discussion" (it's a link) you get a "unauthorized" message? "It appears you are not allowed..."

This link: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4111136

Does anybody know what's up with that? Why is that link there, if it is not accessible?

Pretty annoying.