Carlo TD wrote:
i dont know. I wish everyones unit was working. Of course with so many different set ups it is almost impossible. I think it was this thread or the other thead, a person was trying to use AppleTalk... I wonder how many other people are doing the same thing. Another person had a N router and broadcasted in N but their imac mini was only able to handle b/g. Some are condesending to others or berating to Apple products, in yet it is really them (maybe not), and that does not help especially when a person like myself is trying to help them - trust me I dont have to do this, but at the same time I noticed, many people just dont want to take five minutes and do what they need to do or take some time to try to figure it out - they just want the fast food lane and want it now now now... come on it is everyones part to have due dillegence, and upgrade to the latest operating system, and firmware, and what nots; and if a router needs to be replaced because your using a model from 5+ years ago... then it is a possiblity. The majority of problems I see is perhaps user-self-ended problems, for example: thinking their router was set up before, and it worked, but just because it was set up before does not mean it was set up right in the first place; (let alone not having a password on their router, because the neigbor that does not like them is messing with their network connection) or that it should just work (well it does just work - if you use it properly and give it adequate maintance just like a car, the tire pressure and oil etc has to be maintained); There is also the argument of well this occurred because of this reason... If P then Q (inductive reasoning)... but their inductive reasoning is false because it could be many reaasons... malware messing with the DNS; people not reading directions, possible wifi chip with potential problems (and if it is a chip problem, even that could be looked at), or even not upgrade their os x install properly, etc etc etc. I have seen it all .. .and what people have to realize, be patient, and use your due dillegence when a problem arrises - dont jump to conlusions, but be scientific about trying to fix the problem.
Carlo, you have to see why people are frustrated though. It really should not be this complicated. I have had a dozen computers and devices running off this network in the time I have had this issue with the iMac, and none of them have even a hicup. Taking things at the most basic level, if every device you have is working on your network, and your computer was working fine until the Lion upgrade on that network, this problem really shouldn't exist and people are righfully frustrated about it. Or in my case and many others, a brand machine with Lion had this problem right out of the box while the another Mac beside it is running another OS is fine.
But... my machine has been running fine for over a month after doing fixes from this thread. I have not played with my router, only ran fixes within Lion's settings. So you would assume the hardware is working? What was the deal with the fresh Lion install if that's the case? Why are things working now?
It's just a ridiculous problem. If it is a hardware issue, then fine. They can let us know which machines it effects and I will take mine in. But to lug a 27" iMac to a store an hour away, only to be told there is no problem is just not an option for me.
