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I bailed on Lion

I've been with OSX since the beginning. Each iteration a step forward. This one is not...

- Mission control is a fail - expose was much easier to understand and use

- Launch pad is a fail - much easier to use the application folder in the dock as list (yes, like Windows does)

- UI graphics are sketchy, they're slow and add nothing to the overall experience

- Versions is a step back - it assumes I want to save everything I ever create when in fact, it's the opposite (I like to save the drafts that mean something to me), so now I have to close windows one at a time and discard each window (vs. just closing the app and being asked if I want to discard)

- Safari keeps all these windows open - I often surf with a large number of windows open, closing is the easiest way to rid myself of them... but now Lion thinks it knows how to work better than me, so it just keeps re-opening them - forcing me (not the application) to close each one

- It's not stable ... for the first time ever, I can't believe I'm saying this about my Mac - I don't trust it, when waking from sleep it takes forever, I login and can be logged right back out (no disernable reason); my Wi-Fi connection drops for minutes at a time; mission control can't display things in a consistent manner

At end of day, I reverted back to Snow Leopard. It's the right thing for me to do. They (glitchy) eye candy and "I know better than you what you want to save, open, and display" attitude of Lion is just intrusive. It's a step backward.

And reverting back to Snow Leopard - what a pain. Not sure how others are doing it, but I couldn't install from the Snow Leopard in Lion; I had to backup all files, start up with the Snow Leopard Disk, erase my hard drive, then reinstall Snow Leopard. And I got the pay $29.99 for that experience. Just not what I had in mind when I saw the improvements.

Anyone else step back into Snow Leopard? After a week of Lion, was a pretty easy decision for me.

Posted on Aug 5, 2011 3:19 PM

769 replies

Jan 16, 2012 4:34 PM in response to mulligans missus

There were another 5 updates to correct small bugs. Very small bugs. Inconsequential bugs.

Jan 16, 2012 4:37 PM in response to mulligans missus

Well they're running out of Feline creatures. I guess they'll move on to other creatures. My guess is as good as any.

Csound1

Level 9

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Jan 16, 2012 4:38 PM in response to Ben Friedman1

Ben Friedman1 wrote:

There were another 5 updates to correct small bugs. Very small bugs. Inconsequential bugs.

And the addition of the App Store at 10.6.6

Jan 16, 2012 4:57 PM in response to mulligans missus

I'm recalling other Mac OS's I started with 10.0 That was a real bad OS as the Help Viewer kept locking up and hanging as well as everything else. Then I went to Jaguar and I don't recall any serious bugs. I then went to Panther and I recall users saying that it was like having a NEW Mac right from the first version of the OS. Then came Tiger and I don't recall any valid criticism. Then Leopard . There was some criticism abounding about that OS until it got stabilized.Then Snow Leopard became the OS to have and there was some criticism but nothing like the type of criticism that is prevalent here and elsewhere. BTW I still have the Dogtags given out by my local Applestore when Panther was the "in thing" I stood outside in a line for 3 hours to get the OS. I never heard anything like user's HardDrives or Graphic Cards or Motherboards having to be repaired as in this release.

Jan 16, 2012 5:34 PM in response to Ben Friedman1

Ben Friedman1 wrote:

I'm recalling other Mac OS's I started with 10.0 That was a real bad OS as the Help Viewer kept locking up and hanging as well as everything else. Then I went to Jaguar and I don't recall any serious bugs. I then went to Panther and I recall users saying that it was like having a NEW Mac right from the first version of the OS. Then came Tiger and I don't recall any valid criticism. Then Leopard . There was some criticism abounding about that OS until it got stabilized.Then Snow Leopard became the OS to have and there was some criticism but nothing like the type of criticism that is prevalent here and elsewhere. BTW I still have the Dogtags given out by my local Applestore when Panther was the "in thing" I stood outside in a line for 3 hours to get the OS. I never heard anything like user's HardDrives or Graphic Cards or Motherboards having to be repaired as in this release.

You just refuse to read the other threads and see the same complaints as with this upgrade. Snow Leopard did NOT become the OS to have, because at the time so many people were still using PPC Macs and SL was Intel only. Users screamed the forum down about that. But now hardly anybody runs Powermacs for any serious workflow. No criticism of Tiger??? Go and do some reading and stop talking nonsense.

Cheerio

Jan 16, 2012 5:53 PM in response to mulligans missus

Nonsense? Only if it is not you that have to get a new Hard Drive or Motherboard or Graphic Card replaced. I feel sorry for those users who through no fault of their own had to carry these woes because they installed Lion. I can not recall another OS of Apple's that ran HOT and burned out these components.Did you even look at the Discussion Group for new iMacs that installed Lion or were preinstalled by the factory?

Philly_Phan

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Jan 16, 2012 5:56 PM in response to Ben Friedman1

Ben Friedman1 wrote:

...new Hard Drive or Motherboard or Graphic Card replaced.

OK. You've gone from the sublime to the ridiculous.

Jan 16, 2012 5:58 PM in response to Philly_Phan

I disregard anything you say. You are rude and don't deserve your level. Your behavior here speaks for itself. If you have nothing constructive to say you should just drop out.

Philly_Phan

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Jan 16, 2012 6:00 PM in response to Ben Friedman1

Can't think of an answer, can you?

Csound1

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Jan 16, 2012 6:01 PM in response to Ben Friedman1

Ben Friedman1 wrote:

I disregard anything you say. You are rude and don't deserve your level. Your behavior here speaks for itself. If you have nothing constructive to say you should just drop out.

Yet it is you ordering another person about as if somehow born to it!

Jan 16, 2012 6:10 PM in response to Csound1

I haven't the slightest idea what you are raving about. I have never been anything but courteous and civil and I have never ordered anyone about but I don't have to answer to you or to the rude individual above you.

Csound1

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Jan 16, 2012 6:12 PM in response to Ben Friedman1

"If you have nothing constructive to say you should just drop out."

So that's just a request then.

Philly_Phan

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Jan 16, 2012 6:13 PM in response to Ben Friedman1

Ben Friedman1 wrote:

I have never been anything but courteous and civil...

😁😁😁

Philly_Phan

Level 7

20,707 points

Jan 16, 2012 6:14 PM in response to Ben Friedman1

Ben Friedman1 wrote:

You are rude and don't deserve your level.

You are clearly clueless regarding how the points are awarded.

Jan 16, 2012 6:17 PM in response to Philly_Phan

I can point out numerous times you took insulting jabs at others. Apparently you think you can get away with it but at times someone eventually calls you out. But that is not for this Discussion Group and i can now retire to my bedroom and turn you off. You don't mind do you?

I bailed on Lion