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MAC OSX for Engineering

Hi,


Apple's marketing says: OSX Lion the most advanced operating system. I agree for its features, but I'd like to use it in many processes. People can't develop productivity to have a good tool.

I consider that it's essential that Apple encourage developers to work in Software, for apllications which focus on some professional fields.

It's a great step that Autocad has started to develop software for MAC, but the transference isn't complete.

I am a Civil Engineer, and there's a very important work for engineering. About Structural Analysis, the market offers products like SAP2000, ETABS, Robot Structural Analysis, SAFE, CSI COL, etc. Also software for transportation design: Civil3D. For channels and pipes design. All of them are only available for Windows.


I don't know other fields to talk about, but it's true, professionals feel forgotten by Apple.


Greetings,

Isai Fernández


PD. I'm sorry for my poor English.

Mac OS X (10.7)

Posted on Aug 9, 2011 5:48 AM

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Posted on Aug 9, 2011 6:14 AM

To contact Apple directly: http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html


(in here we are all just fellow Mac-user...).


Plus you should contact the developers of the programs/applications you mentioned and encourage them to bring their software to Mac OSX.

After all, it is their descision to do it or not and there might be some financial/economic reasons to not do it.


Stefan

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Jan 16, 2014 11:02 PM in response to etresoft

Hi etresoft,


First of all - this is not a pipeline to Apple. You are talking with other Mac users here. This is not a developer forum, either.


Second, if you do not find Mac OS X to your liking, then that is your professional opinion. If Windows has all the programs for you and is optimized for you, then why not get a PC? It is completely your choice, and it has always been. It was your choice to get a Mac, not a PC, and if you regret that decision I'm afraid we can't help you.

Jan 17, 2014 2:59 AM in response to marchthefirst

Ettesoft and marchthefirst just do not try to give definitions of what is here and what is not. You are helping nobody. Its better not to talk some times when you have no idea about the subject.


The main point is that Civil/Structural engineers feel that left forgotten by Apple. If you are not neither of that do not take part in the conversation at all. Some people are trying to use the community to find answers concerning real life problems and you guys are spamming giving answers with dead end.


Kindly try to be helpful we don't need any more philosophies.

Jan 17, 2014 6:03 AM in response to Iefe

pushing people who ask embarassing questions out of the temple, and then throwing rocks at them ( sometimes a rock even hits one of your own, marchthefirst 🙂 ) are eternal "solutions"...We're all too testy !

"This community" is a community of people who use Apple products. You aren't doing that." writes eresoft. In fact NickZaf was trying to use an Apple product, and his comments do have a place here. We MUST tolerate some "testiness" from each other ( the comments of a "satellite" engineers on civil engineers was way out of whack: when a bridge falls , a lot of questions are asked...)

Jan 17, 2014 6:34 AM in response to NickZaf

NickZaf,


How many Civil/Engineering Utilities are developed by Microsoft? It is not Apple's fault that Developers of Structural Engineering Programs do not want to port their codes to OS X. A clear example is ANSYS, this code was developed originally in UNIX and ported to Windows. With very little efford it can be ported to OS X as UNIX/Linux/OS X use the same c/c++ compiler. But for some reason they refuse to do it.


It is like companing to Google because they do not have FaceTime. They develop the OS, its in the hands of other to develop applications and unfortunally the OS X market is very limited in the structural engineering community so it is not attractive for developers to port their code to OS X.


These are my 2 cents..

Jan 17, 2014 8:05 AM in response to clodo9

clodo9 wrote:


NickZaf was trying to use an Apple product, and his comments do have a place here. We MUST tolerate some "testiness" from each other ( the comments of a "satellite" engineers on civil engineers was way out of whack: when a bridge falls , a lot of questions are asked...)

No, he was digging up a thread that was started over two years ago for the sole purpose of starting a rant and denigrating the Mac because Windows software doesn't run on it. That is some shaky logic for someone who claims to be an engineer. Civil engineers must be licensed, and their work, more so than many other engineering domains, is safety-critical. When a bridge falls down, questions are only the start. It could very well lead to loss of license, fines, and maybe even criminal charges for negligent and improper use of the tools of the trade.

Jan 17, 2014 8:41 AM in response to Iefe

http://www.architosh.com/ - an online guide to numerous Mac CAD and Engineering resources.


http://www.corel.com/corel/product/index.jsp?pid=prod5190096- CorelCAD for Mac is now at 2014.


http://usa.autodesk.com/products/mac-compatible-products- AutoCAD is not their only solution.


http://sourceforge.net/ - open source solutions


Some alternatives I've learned about that still make Mac products:


http://www.sketchup.com/products/sketchup-pro


http://www.engsw.com/ - PowerCADD author


http://www.turbocad.com/


http://www.ashlar.com/products/cad-and-3d-modeling-operation-system-support.html


http://www.artifice.com/dw.html - has older Mac operating system compatible products


http://www.graphisoft.com/archicad/archicad_17/faq/ versions 15-17 are 64 bit for the Mac


http://www.formz.com/


http://www.lemkesoft.de/en/products/cadintosh/


http://www.acdsee.com/en/support


http://www.adx-online.com/realcadd/realcaddus.htm


http://www.ilexsoft.com/highdesign/specs.html


http://www.vectorworks.net/index.php


Don't forget, since 2006, Macs have essentially become PCs, with the ability to natively virtualize any PC operating system:


https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-2741


The upside to this is you don't have to repurchase your tool for a different operating system.

The downside is that developers see that, and feel that people have no reason to run native Mac systems to do their work.


Suffice it to say, if your office hasn't researched all the alternatives listed above, complaints about the Mac capability are specious at best.

MAC OSX for Engineering

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