About the little scrollbar arrows...

GuIIdo I was being sarcastic. I hope no one believed my comment it was so OTT!😀

So many usefull things disappeared with Lion

n3nto wrote:

GuIIdo I was being sarcastic. I hope no one believed my comment it was so OTT!😀

So many usefull things disappeared with Lion

I've found that attempts to be humourous on this forum regularly backfire.

Some people read too quickly, others seem to insist on misunderstanding no matter how many times they read something, and yet others (they know who they are) are just out to pick a fight whenever they can.

Still, I thought it was funny! 😀

Just adding my voice to this conversation. Like the OP, I use a Wacom to pretty much navigate my entire dual-screened 27" iMac. When working in Photoshop, those arrows are crucial for specific movements through 15-50 layers on a photograph. Plus the scrollbars are so much smaller now, I have to slow down and meticulously move the arrow over it to scroll up and down. One of the first preferences I changed was having them as always showing. But arrow keys are useful in something as basic as a Skype text chat. Trying to use a trackpad to scroll up through text causes it to jump through whole blocks of it. The arrow keys is a lot slower and more precise way to achieve this.

I need the scroll arrows for the reasons cited by the OP - Also, Lion failed to predict my brain patterns.

I like the speed increases I have seen in Lion so far but the missing bits (scroll arrows, remaining hard drive space at the bottom of Finder windows, etc.) have outweighed the gains.

The up and down keyboard arrows work in Lion as scroll bar arrows.

My 2 cents: I neeeeeeeeed the arrows. Please, Apple

It would be very helpful if Apple or some other kind soul brought back the scrollbar arrows. While their absence is annoying to me, but it is a real problem (visually) for my 90ish parents. Any developers listening?

@Uncle Tony

They're still there in Snow Leopard 10.6.8... 😉

Sadly, my parent's care calendar needs to be edited by their various caregivers and iCloud/IOS 5/Lion is the only technology that could connect calendars for our disparate devices

I too would like to have the arrows back. It's not the scrollbars or the scrolling in general, it's the missing ability to use the arrows to move in small increments such as one row at a time in a spreadsheet or navigate through layers in Photoshop. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A COMPUTER AND AN IPAD. I LOVE MY IPAD. I LOVE MY MACBOOK. I DON'T LOVE APPLE'S INSISTENCE THAT THEIR OPERATING SYSTEMS BE MERGED. For everything I like about Lion, there is something I hate. I've never had this experience before when upgrading from one version of OS X to the next.

Apple please bring back the scroll arrows. I use a trackball with an extended keyboard and it's a nuisance to have to move my hand 6 inches every time I need fine control over scrolling.

Please Apple, give us an option to have back the scroll arrows!!!

It´s absolutely necessary for many specific functions, such as navigating across thousands of songs in itunes, selecting an specific file inside a folder containing too many items or working with lots of layers in photoshop. Especially if the scroll button of your mouse is broken, this is so annoying that I´m almost sorry to have upgraded to Lion.

I have been in the "IT" world since before desktop computers came to be. I have never used a Windows box as my primary desktop, always Apple. This means that I have seen lots of changes in hardware and software; I've been through the transition to OS X; from time to time, I've had to give up favorite programs and features that "no longer worked". I do not believe I have ever seen a change showing less sensitivity to customer needs and usage than the removal of the scroll arrows. The narrower scroll bars I can deal with, but there are times when the lack of fine control the arrows gave makes me want to throw the machine through a window.

I do not believe that Apple any longer considers the kind of professional, production users who have been posting to this thread of importance.

But it's sometimes impossible to scroll slowly in the many applications that don't use the up and down arrows. Why wouldn't Apple check this out before pushing a new OS??? They assume all the application developers will get around this? There may be problems with the new e-mail format as well.