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Garret Textor1 Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

I have been having a number of problems with lion the only kexts I have are associated with intego's VirusBarrier X6. Has anyone noticed problems that are associated with VB X6? Anyone remove it and see improvement? Anyone do a clean install then install it and have a problem?


MBP, Mac OS X (10.7), 2.4 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB
  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (43,370 points)

    Remove it, restart, observe the difference (if any)

     

    If you must run AV software ClamAV has the least worst reputation

  • Russa Level 4 Level 4 (1,315 points)

    I use Lion with VirusBarrier X6 and do not experience any problems. It works fine. Be sure to update the VBX6 software regularly.

     

    Please be aware the protection provided by ClamXAV is not as extensive as VBX6. It's also free. So "you gets what you pay for". 

  • jeff19 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    VirusBarrier X6 is the only virus product that was Lion compatable before Lion was released.  Works fine.

     

    ClamAV is fine if you are REALLY comfortable with the command line. Not real friendly.

  • fuzzydog Level 2 Level 2 (355 points)

    Sophos is also free and works without problems in Lion.

  • thomas_r. Level 7 Level 7 (30,415 points)

    Please be aware the protection provided by ClamXAV is not as extensive as VBX6. It's also free. So "you gets what you pay for".

     

    ClamXav is highly respected, and protects you from just as much malware as Sophos.  Just because it's free does not make it bad.  One big advantage of ClamXav is that it does not install any kexts, so there's no chance of it causing a kernel panic.

     

    If Sophos is working for you, that's fine, but that's no reason to slam ClamXav.

  • thomas_r. Level 7 Level 7 (30,415 points)

    VirusBarrier X6 is the only virus product that was Lion compatable before Lion was released.

     

    Not at all true.  ClamXav was compatible.

     

    ClamAV is fine if you are REALLY comfortable with the command line. Not real friendly.

     

    Huh?  There's no command line stuff needed for using ClamXav.  It's interface couldn't be much easier.

  • Russa Level 4 Level 4 (1,315 points)

    I hardly "slammed" ClamXAV. I merely pointed out it's deficiency relative to VBX6. Why did you bring up Sophos since I was responding to the VBX6 question? VBX6 offers real-time network flow, signature, and anomaly detecton. I don't think ClamXAV does.. does it? 

  • thomas_r. Level 7 Level 7 (30,415 points)

    I merely pointed out it's deficiency relative to VBX6.

     

    Where one sees a deficiency, another sees something not bogged down with useless features.  VB includes a firewall, for example... umm, why?  Most people don't need a firewall, and those who do have two to choose from, built into the OS.  You don't need a lot of the fancy stuff in VB, it's just there to make people who don't truly understand security feel like they're more protected.

     

    Why did you bring up Sophos

     

    Simple mis-statement.  Used the wrong name.

  • csewrx Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I have a 2008 MBP and have X6.  When I upgraded to Lion I had nothing but problems, kernel panic's, etc.  I thought it was Lion.

     

    I completely erased and rebuilt my MBP this weekend and put everything but Intego on it and for 2 days had NO problems at all.  I downloaded Intego today, installed it, let it reboot, update, etc and all of my problems came back.  When I came out of standby or sleep my MBP became completely unresponsible.  100% CPU, etc.  I turn it completely off (every tab, everything) and it goes away. 

     

    I wrote Intego's support and there answer is to uninstall and reinstall.  Completely worthless. Not one problem on Snow Leopard, but Lion.....hosed. 

  • mucmac Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Since upgrading to Lion, I have had random programs (including Mail and others) going to 100% plus CPU usage, slow down and fan kicking in on a 2009 MBP and a 2009 iMac with fully updated copies of Virusbarrier X6. Another 2010 iMac without Virusbarrier purred right along. After uninstalling Virusbarrier X6 on the affected machines things run really smoothly.

  • Linc Davis Level 10 Level 10 (165,370 points)

    VBX6 offers real-time network flow, signature, and anomaly detecton. I don't think ClamXAV does.. does it?

     

    No, because those features are worse than useless, just like all commercial "anti-virus" products for the Mac.

  • csewrx Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    It is Intego causing the problems.  I know it for a fact.  If you go into Intego and turn it on and I mean every single tab set it to "OFF", all of your problems will go away.  I have been in contact with Intego support and am testing a beta copy now that "supposedly" fixes a ton of bugs with Intego on Lion.  We'll see. 

     

    I'm starting to agree with Linc that AV software for a mac really is useless.  If they don't get it fixed, I'll be ripping this crap off here. 

  • MadMacs0 Level 5 Level 5 (4,590 points)

    jeff19 wrote:

     

    ClamAV is fine if you are REALLY comfortable with the command line. Not real friendly.

    Sorry I missed this at the time it was posted.

     

    What you say is true about the cross-platform clamav scanning engine.  That's why ClamXav was written, to provide the GUI necessary for Mac users to avoid having to deal with the command line.

  • jeff26 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    As seems to be typical for you, your comments are less than helpful to anyone and are just showing a personal position that doesn't completely resonate with today's internet threats.  It isn't about a 'virus' for a Mac, although those are coming, at least according to the 'experts' that track these things, it is about all the other junk out there in the form of malware and other social attacks.

     

    All Mac users aren't as sophisticated and worldly as you position youself to be, and your seeming opinion that the Mac is somehow pure and clean and not susceptable to the icky stuff out there is just a bit out of date.

     

    You do understand that these 'commercial' anti-virus companies spend a TON of money on the front lines trapping and identifying these new threats and keeping their products up to date.  Is it just that you don't like the idea of a company offering a service and making a profit in doing it or that you are just so hard core that you refuse to believe that your pristine Mac world can ever be harmed by outside influences?

     

    You need to do a little research...

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