Will the iPhone 4 support the new Siri integration?

Better camera, better dw speed, better processor... Why restrict a perfectly good device to boost another one. Current iphone4 users won't receive anything good enough to upgrade to 4s imo. We'll just wait for the 5 😉

It can still handle the features of iOS5.Siri is not a part of iOS5. It will do Reminders, iCloud, and the other 200 (?) new features of iOS5.

As it stands now, your 4 won't be able to use the Apple Siri app. That's it. It still will do all that iOS5 has and it still does everything it did before the 4S was released.

Still, it's a fail.

You're entitled to your opinion. I, like many many others, will be upgrading and passing my iPhone 4 down to my wife to replace her aging iPhone 3G.

Not really, but like you, that's my opinion. Everyone listened to the rumors. The IP4 is perfectly fine and it's still uncertain about Siri. Apart from a bigger screen and new form factor (I don't see what's wrong with the current one) it has been upgraded.

@J. Christopher Edwards not exactly true, iphone 4, ipod touch 4, and ipad1 will not be able do airplay mirroring, or airplay gameing, only the dual cpu and dual gpu's of the a5 chip can render two screens at once, as a developer and having ios 5 beta on my devices for last few months i know, but all other features of ios 5 will work on a4 chip.

as for siri it is beta software so they probaly just limiting devices it's on untill its better tested in real world.

Not sure where you are or who your service provider is but ATT lets you return any phone les than 30 days old.

Siri co-founder Norman Winarsky, said:

"... I can say that AI takes a lot of computing power," he explained. "The Siri software needs to cache data, needs to access a big data set at wide bandwidth, and needs a big processor to crunch all of the numbers. When we originally released Siri for the iPhone 3GS, we had to perform all kinds of optimizations and shortcuts to get it to work efficiently. All I can say is that it will likely run much better on a faster phone."

Im in australia too

And I was thiking the IPhone 4 so it can have an upgrade to the IPhone 4S to be lower cost or to have free of charged for upgrading that will be a lot better if areyone will save money from buying a new one if they can go to a repair shop or in the apple store or at the carrer it will be the best thats what i'm thinking so you don't have to buy $700 or more.

Please don't post after drinking heavily. This makes absolutely no sense.

No , apple doesnt release a phone every fall , lol , look at 3G and 3GS look at the gab between 'em , and 3GS and 4 ? almost from a 1 and a half to a year to 2 years so basically every one predicted they would release iphone 4S by 2012 , basically apple applied the method of ' Eat yourself before some body eats you ' which is a buisness term they though that they would lose the compition between the other smart phones so they stabed their product by releasing a better version , and basically the only difference is the Dual Core and the camera not much worth the upgrade , its not like am going to walk arround taking pictures of everyone anyone who can buy an iphone can afford a proffesional camera and about the card it is a little sensable but a bit too late .

ahmed haitham wrote:

No , apple doesnt release a phone every fall , lol , look at 3G and 3GS look at the gab between 'em , and 3GS and 4 ? almost from a 1 and a half to a year to 2 years so basically every one predicted they would release iphone 4S by 2012

Get your facts straight. Apple released the new model every year in U.S starting back from 2007. Apple released the 1st Gen. iphone in 2007, then the iPhone 3G (2nd gen.) in 2008, iPhone 3G S in 2009, iPhone 4 in 2010, and iphone 4S 2011. iphone 4S was delayed because of the quake in Japan and that pretty much is the reason why it was delayed. 1st gen iphone came out in June, iPhone 3G came out in July of 2008, iPhone 3G S in June of 2009, iphone 4 in June of 2010, and there is a pattern, june/july is usually the month when Apple release the new iphone.

I know this one is just speculation but oh well. It is possible that Apple has done this move this year because of the earthquake. It is possible that next year, Apple may release the next generation iphone in June/July. Unless they decide to change it make make the September/October the offical release date for the iphones, which is unlikely.

Someone might have covered this already but I didnt read the whole thred:

Just from watching the press release it appears the siri system doesn't use a whole lot of local processor power, instead all the siri app does is convert your voice into text and then send this text to a powerful server to process the contextual meaning of the text and sends back the appropriate response. That is why you must be in a 4g or wi-fi area to use it. This is based on cloud computing ideology, the A5 and A4 may be powerful but not enough so to make sense of speech patterns on the level Siri does.

Now if this is the case then it is unlikly Apple has put inplace the infrustructure of intelligent servers required to support all the current iphone 4 user demand right away. Moving forward it would seem reasonable that as apple builds there infrustructure for Siri and finishes Beta testing with iPhone 4s users that the application will become available to iPhone 4 users as well.

Since they are releasing the Beta now they are pretty confident with the functionality, give apple ~6 months to build a bunch of Siri server farms throughout North America and we should all get Siri 🙂

If it uses cloud computing then is it reliable? - like in areas of poor connectivity or as you are disappearing into a train tunnel or you're begging your phone to tell your wife you love her because both your arms are trapped under a boulder and you left your swiss army knife at home and brought your iphone instead . . .

I think you're spot on. And I read the whole thread. You're the first person to say it. I think that it might be restricted to the 4S because of the redesigned attenna too. With quicker upload/downloads, voice commands will seem a lot less laggy.

But then my question is whether this will impact data usage. iCloud will already impact data usage if you're not careful, but if I'm like the guy in the promo video using it on my run, I might be racking up more data usage depending on how much data is sent. But it probably won't be much if it's just sending the text that was processed.