Will the iPhone 4 support the new Siri integration?

siri will not be on the 4 only the 4s. That's what they say. But I bet two or three OS versions from now it'll be on everything. it's just being used to flog the 4s.

I want to thank all the people on this thread for making me laugh this morning. Does anyone understand how busineses work? They need to make money to survive... apple releases a new product and it has something that the previous verison doesnt have... Now your on here complaining about the fact that you cant have siri on your iphone 4..... Get over it and buy the 4s if you want it that bad... Stop complaining about a few hundred dollars. I wanted it, so im getting it. When the 5 or whatever it is comes out, I wont be eligible for an upgrade, but if I want it ill buy it. Its not apples job to give you something for free.... Who knows if Siri will ever be on teh iphone 4... if you dont want to wait around to find out, buy the new one. Or send an email to apple and ask them to not release any new products for 2 years so you can upgrade when your contract is up... hahaha.

you say the company needs to make money so it adds new exclusive features to new product. sure, that makes sense.

but that does not mean people cannot or shouldnot complain about Apple's lucrative decision as to not supporting their older handsets.

I personally think it surely is a blameworthy conduct if Apple based on pure profit motivation decides to disallow Siri from their older hardware, especially from iPhone 4, which may very well be capable of running the feature without hiccup.

Would you not be mad if your new Operating System does not give you multi touch gesture when your trackpad is capable of handling that, just because your laptop is about a year old?

I think corporates would love to have you, a mere customer, who'd just buy new products without complaints.

I could totally see Apple releasing Siri once iOS / Siri are more mature. I know iOS 5 has gone through like 12 stable releases, but you never know when it hits the masses.

Reason I say this is because there are simply too many iPhone 4's out in the wild to let them be ignored - not to mention the 3Gs is still being sold after all. iPhone 4 is not near EOL, especially given that there are so many aftermarket accessories and now even the iPhone 4S shares the sames dimensions.

What I am certain of though, is that the hardware of the iPhone 4 is not quite enough to run Siri in its entirety. I mean come on people, we all saw the benchmark specs for the iPad 2 over the first iPad, not to mention the A5 benchmarks that are cropping up for the IP4S as of late.

What I think will happen is that voice input through the keyboard will at least be added in a later version of iOS 5 for all the iphone 4 owners. Sure it can't run full Siri but I would be more than happy with my iPhone 4 being able to have voice input. Apple supports older products in these cases where the competition is outpacing their most purchased hardware eg, iPhone 4. Android has had voice to text for over a year now, and I know the iPhone 4 is more than capable of at least running a slimmed down version of this through Siri - if not the full fledged dictation software.

Fingers crossed.

this assertion that siri will not work on the iphone 4 has no merit. we do not know the specs of the siri requirements. furthermore, Im fairly certain that the siri will work on iphone 4.

All processing is done on servers as far as creating your replies. All siri would do on the phones end is process the audio and send a request to the database.

siri is a main selling point for the iphone 4s. It will become available to iphone 4 when they have milked their new product a bit and put in more infrastructure for siri servers

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Honestly noone except Apple knows whether Siri will work for iPhone 4. We all assume that because iPhone 4S has an A5 chip it makes all the difference. I myself believe that Siri does work on iPhone 4 but Apple may not want anyone to know because then noone will kill themsleves to get a 4S. From my understanding there are people who are working on porting Siri to iPhone 4 and the problem isn't the chip the problem is the fact that somewhere in the structure of the Siri app, there may be a restriction causing Siri to not be compatable with iPhone 4. Noone will know if Siri can work for iPhone 4 until the 4S is released and they go inside of its hardware. I've seen a lot of people arguing about it but Apple is just giving incentive to get the 4S as a lot of my friends want. I have asked why do you want it and their responses were I want Siri.

it has just been confirmed by ifixit that the iphone 4s has 512mb of RAM the same that's in the iphone 4.

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone-4S-Teardown/6610/1

They mention the RAM at step 8.

does this mean that the iphone 4 does support siri considering most of the processing for siri happens on apples servers?

The part thats getting me ticked off is that Ive had the original Siri App for over a year now. It works find on my IP4. The only thing different with the new Siri is that it talks back to you. I can talk to mine and have it convert to text so I can save reminders and ask about restaurants etc. BUT, now that Apple has taken it over, the original Siri App is no longer going to work. Why is that????

timothy219 wrote:

I want to thank all the people on this thread for making me laugh this morning. Does anyone understand how busineses work? They need to make money to survive... apple releases a new product and it has something that the previous verison doesnt have... Now your on here complaining about the fact that you cant have siri on your iphone 4..... Get over it and buy the 4s if you want it that bad... Stop complaining about a few hundred dollars. I wanted it, so im getting it. When the 5 or whatever it is comes out, I wont be eligible for an upgrade, but if I want it ill buy it. Its not apples job to give you something for free.... Who knows if Siri will ever be on teh iphone 4... if you dont want to wait around to find out, buy the new one. Or send an email to apple and ask them to not release any new products for 2 years so you can upgrade when your contract is up... hahaha.

So then Apple should have released the 4S with a new feature, not take a feature that people have been using for a year and disable it.

And its people like you that make Apple laugh!

I still think Siri will be available on older phones once its out of beta, and all those banging on that it needs the A5, all Siri's processing is done on external servers.

My understanding is that the new version works with everything, completely built-in, and is quite different from the original app.

It's still in beta though so we'll have to see what happens.

Exactly. Sooo stupid i am really upset about that as well.

On my IP4 I would love to at least have

- the mic icon available to input text by voice instead of the keyboard

- the ability to have messages read back and reply to them by voice

- the ability to add basic reminders/calendar entries by voice.

I'd be satisfied with voice recognition and control without the full-blown Siri natural language processing.

Timothy219 made it pretty simple and I agree. Apple is concerned with making as much money as they can with as little effort as possible because they reall don't even have to try because their phone are that good. It is evident that people love this phone so much that it does not need to do anthing crazy when they release a new phone. Minimal. Just enough to make iPhone lovers ditch their last model phone. They got real lazy this time (but smart on their behalf) and decided to isolate software to the 4s that could work just fine for the iPhone 4 to push it over just ennough to have you drooling at the retail counters on the pre-release date. Also, no one is really paying attention to the real smack in the face. THE ANTENNA. Is that really a selling feature? Its somthing that they should have fixed with iPhone4 to begin with. Maybe even a recall. I am suprised that even the new iphone 4's being produced wouldn't come with this fix. It's a break fix, not an enhancement people. Aplle has an amazing product that they are going to juice as long as they can. They no longer need to make bold moves.... yet

You're upset because you are not getting Siri on your iPhone 4? Grow up and worry about something important.

Siri WILL NOT be available for the iPhone 4. It is an exclusive feature of the iPhone 4S. No amount of moaning or complaining will change this.