No gestures for iPad 1 in iOS 5? Apple, are you kidding us?!

Life is not fair. Anyone who suggested otherwise to you was lying. Or in very deep denial.

Lol, life may not be fair, but from a company that stands to lose money if they don't adapt to what competitors will pick up on if they drop the ball then shame on them. Consumers wants and needs dictate what the things should do. Thats business!

locsphere wrote:

Lol, life may not be fair, but from a company that stands to lose money if they don't adapt to what competitors will pick up on if they drop the ball then shame on them. Consumers wants and needs dictate what the things should do. Thats business!

Apparently, you haven't been paying attention to the way Apple has done business, extremely successfully. Apple has a history of NOT doing what customers think the should (removing floppy disk drives, stoppoing the licensing of Mac OS to other hardware, no Flash on iOS devices are just the ones I can think of quickly). There's a long history of Apple doing what they believed was right and customers coming around to their point of view. Even the iPad wasn't what consumers thought they wanted. Apple virtually created the market for tablets by telling people they should buy them. Not the other way around.

Does that apply here? Probably not. However, Apple also has a history of not including features on older devices if they feel that the feature doesn't work exactly they way they want, if it makes the product look less than stellar. This is particularly true with interface features. You may not agree, you may think the feature worked just fine but what has made Apple, well Apple is they do it they way the think it should be done.

I really can understand that folks would be disappointed by this. Apple however makes the descisions that they make and rarely have ever reversed them. Multi-touch gestures never was part of the public version of iOS 4, so Apple has not taken away anything. Folks who had them hacked their iPad (hacked, not jailbroke).

But there are features about iOS 5 that are iOS device specific, the iPhone and iPod Touch can use iOS 5, but there are no multi-touch gestures on those iOS devices. The iPhone and iTouch have the camera features, but not iPads. The iPhone has Siri, but not the iTouches or iPads.

Apple is a large company and a roll out as large as Apple has accomplished in the past few days was very complicated. The truth is someone made a mistake in the copy for iOS multi-touch gestures at www.apple.com. When I frst saw these posts begin showing up I brought the issue immediately to the ASC hosts and requested the appropriate department rectify the copy on the iOS site. It was corrected post haste. Here is the link to my post to the hosts, only those of you who are level 6 or higher in the ASC will be able to access it;

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3375908?answerId=16357169022#16357169022

Dah•veed - where was this corrected? on the website? I take your word for it but I still can't find it. I am merely curious.

BTW ... I don't think there will be many level 6 users that will posting here other than the few experienced user that are trying to calm the fury - so the rest of us are not privy to what you told Apple maybe if you could post exactly where this has been corrected - I would like to read it,

The copy was corrected on the apple.com website here;

http://www.apple.com/ios/features.html#more

It originally said this -

Multitasking Gestures for iPad

iOS 5 includes a few new moves and shortcuts to help you get around even quicker on your iPad: Using four or five fingers, swipe up to reveal the multitasking bar, pinch to return to the Home screen, and swipe left or right to switch between apps.

and in just a few hours after I brought the complaint to their attention was changed to this -

Multitasking Gestures for iPad 2

iOS 5 includes a few new moves and shortcuts to help you get around even quicker on your iPad 2: Using four or five fingers, swipe up to reveal the multitasking bar, pinch to return to the Home screen, and swipe left or right to switch between apps.

I just wanted folks to know that Apple does respond to its employees mistakes. Not of course as everyone wants them to

It has been corrected on the website.

Google's cache: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:U156vCWdz5wJ:www.apple.com/ ios/features.html&cd=6&hl=en&ct=clnk

I am disappointed by the way Apple is handling this issue. I had been using multitasking gestures on my iPad 1 since it was upgraded to iOS4.3. At the time I was not a developer and having that feature available was just brilliant - I didn't know it was a developer feature only and certainly don't know know how I got it if it was. I thought it was odd then that multitasking gestures was one of the headline features of iOS5. I have since enrolled as a developer and now have an app on the AppStore but in the development cycle I needed to test against iOS5 beta. I was surprised to find that the multitasking gestures was absent but thought that Apple had withheld that feature for a later release. After going through 2 beta updates with no sign of the feature I finally update to the live version with no sign of it. ***?

No word from Apple - no mention was made of the fact that they are limiting this feature to iPad2 only. They could have given us some warning that this was going to be the situation. Better still they could have left the feature on and present a warning message to those on iPad1 that this feature may have a performance penalty and atleast give the users an option to choose.

I am not happy with the current situation.

Thanks. I understand it was a mistake, but extremely disappointing nonetheless.

I didn't know it was a developer feature only and certainly don't know know how I got it if it was.

Not true. There are only two ways that someone could get multi-touch gestures on an iPad 1 or 2 with iOS 4;

1. hacking the iPad's OS, go through a process of accessing the OS on the iPad and changing the code in a file, or

2. purchasing Xcode for Snow Leopard, or getting the free version for Lion and using it to convert an iPad to developer use.

Neither of those steps can be done by accident, they take motive, in this case motive to activate multi-touch gestures on an iPad that does not have it.

The gestures worked fine on an iPad 1 running iOS 4.3.x. But are you an Apple iOS software engineer who can say definitively that it works without issue on an iPad 1 running iOS 5? No, you are making an assumtion when you state that it would.